Former Gun Store Owner Jailed for Refusing to Surrender His Facebook Password

A conflict between the previous owner of a gun store and its new owner has moved into unexplored legal territory. Jeremy Alcede was the owner of Tactical Firearms in Katy, Texas when the company went bankrupt. The new owners insisted Alcede’s Facebook account should convey with the business. When the two parties could not agree, they went to court, and Alcede ended up in jail for seven hours.

The judge who heard the case at first ordered Alcede to surrender his password. When he refused to provide it, he was arrested for contempt of court. Alcede told KTRK-TV in Houston he believes the judge did not understand the finer points of social media, since his Facebook account is a personal page and not a business page.

When they said they wanted the Facebook, I explained to the attorney who was representing the company that there is no company Facebook page and there’s just my personal page. And I asked her to convey that to the judge, and obviously it wasn’t conveyed.

During the time Alcede still owned Tactical Firearms, he posted some outspoken political signs on the store, resulting in lots of online attention. He thinks that is why the new owners are eager to have access to his Facebook “friends.”

John Boyert, the new owner, told KTRK-TV:

At the point in time, he was an employee of the company and he was building that for the company regardless of who is owner or not.

This case is prompting high interest among users of social media, particularly business owners. When Alcede posted a link to a news article about the case, one Facebook friend commented, “If it is this page they’re trying to obtain access to, they cannot. It would violate Facebook’s terms of service: ‘4.8 You will not share your password (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.'”

The judge hearing the case has now appointed an outside administrator to count the number of business posts versus business posts. Once he has that information, he will make a ruling on who will ultimately own the Facebook page.

We are living in a new world of online social media. New legal issues are coming to the fore, and not just in cases involving terrorism, online bullying or cybercrimes. It is clear new ground is being broken in the area of business contracts, as well.

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  • hangman57

    Screw Obama and the courts , you have 1st Amendment rights .

    • Daniel from TN

      You’re thinking of 2nd amendment rights. The 1st amendment deals with freedom of religion, among other things.

      • conservative since 1962

        Amendment I deals with freedom of speech as well as religion. Amendment II deals with only the right to keep and bear arms, not with social media in any way.

      • William Dean

        No—First and Second Amendments both play a part here. If the man were selling a produce or grocery store the question would never have popped up.

        • Rx7pj

          What makes you think that?? This case is about who owns the social media, period. What kind of store it is has zero bearing on the ruling.

          • William Dean

            Good God! Where do you people come from? The public school system?

          • Rx7pj

            Good God where do you come from??? You certainly have no ability to see the facts

          • b4k9zp

            You have BLINDED yourself, and have no ability to present facts of any kind whatever.

          • Crapola

            You got it Jack. You’ve heard the old saying, the wool has been pulled over his eyes? Well, that was done in school and that’s where it begins.

          • bug

            No he’s rt, ur missing his point.

          • Rx7pj

            What point?? He made NONE

          • bug

            he’s saying it’s all about guns. true! if it were about anything else, i promise, it would not come up!

          • Rx7pj

            It is NOT all about guns, read the article. This is about who has the rights to a facebook account. You WANT it to be about guns. You’re right the author would not have posted this article if it were not a gun store, He’s trying to make some connection that simple isn’t there, just to get people like you excited. And it worked , you bought right into it.

          • b4k9zp

            Since the store owner sold guns, he set up a SEPARATE facebook account. He used it for personal stuff, as well as to notify some of his regular customers of some good bargains at times. But it was never a part of the store, and the new owners have no right to demand access to his personal information.

          • Crapola

            You are whistling in the wind, my friend.

          • Crapola

            Of course. It takes common sense to figure this one out and some people are sorely lacking in that department.

          • b4k9zp

            Wrong. the unconstitutional involvement of the government in this case denying the former store owner his right of freedom of speech , because of the nature of his business (selling guns), is also a violation of his second amendment right to keep and bear arms.

          • b4k9zp

            The kind of store has EVERY bearing on the ruling. For the owner of the store was targeted by the obama administration because of his anti-administration views. That’s obvious to anyone who actually uses their brains to think in any manner whatever. Of course, to obama worshipers like you, no facts mean anything, for you support obama only because he is a black man.

      • snowyriver

        The 2nd amendment was put there to protect the people when all else fails.

        • The Fox

          Actually there to protect us from a out of control government, like it is today.

          • snowyriver

            EXACTLY

      • The Fox

        Since the courts have gone astray there is no more Constitution, the Courts ruled separation of Church and State and can’t find those words anywhere in the Constitution, Jefferson said in his comments to a religious group that the wall was there to protect religion from the government, not the other way around, should be able to speak or pray anywhere we want, in public, in a building and to put our idea’s on so called government land, as We the People are the government and the land belongs to us and not some elected group of idiot’s, the property belongs to us not them. This nation has kicked God out of government, out of schools, out of the public eye and even many so called churches and if not let back in soon, this nation that has become evil instead of good will be toast.

        • Buzz Waldron

          . The Gov’t Lands belong to us normal people, not you psychotic religics with brains controlled by evil foreign Middle Eastern religions…

          • The Fox

            I said many times all the U.S. land belongs to we the people, I was a Marine for 12 years and if your talking to this Marine you out of line, I am controlled by the God who created this entire Universe, don’t like it? Take it up with Him and see who wins, seems you lost your mind somewhere, go find it.

          • b4k9zp

            What is a “religic” ignorant one?

            Nothing you state has ever had any validity. Government buildings were built and paid for by religious people who paid taxes, something you have never done/

          • b4k9zp

            Government lands belong to the taxpayers, yes. That lets you and Rx7 out. for you are leeches.

            WHere in the constitution does that document deny citizenship to people who believe in Christ Jesus, or His Father, YHWH? You are a liar, ignorant on.

      • scotlad219

        How about 1st Amendment AND 2nd Amendment rights?

      • AbleAmerican1

        Check out Amendment IV..Paraphrased..”The right of the people to be SECURE in their persons, houses, PAPERS, & effects against UNreasonable searches & SEIZURES, shall NOT be VIOLATED..etc..
        & then check out Article V..for a Convention of States wherein “States.(34 needed) & NOT Congress..file with their State legislators to convene in a ‘Convention of States’ wherein recommendations to “AMEND”several of OUR Constitution’s Amendments NOW being drastically shredded to FURTHER enhance BIG Governments control over ‘WE THE PEOPLE” & thus cause STATES TO LOSE THEIR SOVEREIGNTY of the RIGHT TO GOVERN IN THEIR RESPECTIVE STATES.. check out http://www.conventionofstates.com The State Legislators in Alaska, Florida & Georgia have ALREADY completed their action & there are to be MANY more to do so prior to the upcoming “Convention” in early 2015..What’s your State doing about being there to Amend our Constitution to get rid of the IRS, EPA, NEA, Term Limits (Including the SCOTUS) etc.. Read
        Mark R. Levin’s book..”The LIBERTY AMENDMENTS Restoring the American Republic” for a GOOD understanding of what Amendments need (must) be Amended..but do so..ONLY..if ya give a damn about what KIND OF AMERICA ya want OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS to be living UNDER!!

        • Buzz Waldron

          . ALL religions are part of the FOREIGN ENEMIES of the USA…

          • AbleAmerican1

            ??????????????????????????????????/// i SEE WHY YOU’RE named “BUZZ”..Nice you have the 1st. Amendment to back ya up.. LMAO donk..

          • Crapola

            Think of Obama as the Grinch and our country here as Christmas. That is what is happening here today and what is in store for all of us if we aren’t careful. Why is it that liberals need a person to idolize in order to elect them? First Obama and now I see the same thing happening with Warren. It’s like they are missing something, or someone like maybe a HIGHER POWER.

          • b4k9zp

            Wrong again, as usual. Your devil worship is disgusting.

          • b4k9zp

            Another lie by one of the biggest liars on this forum.

        • sweetqueen777

          Well stated, Sir. I would NEVER give my FB password to an employer. I am sure they can see whatever I have posted, since I NEVER post anything I would not want my grandmother to see. We should NEVER assume ANY privacy with anything that is on the internet. If you don’t want it seen, Do Not Post It. So Very Simple.

          • Crapola

            Didn’t it say the new owner wants access to the old owners Facebook friends? That is like when liberals delve into information to find who donated to what cause so they can smear conservatives with crap to keep them out of office, or to get them out, whatever. That is not exactly like the old owner posting things that he doesn’t want anyone in certain circles to read.

      • ipsd48

        Actually, it would deal with IV amendment rights

      • Crapola

        Also, a little thing called FREEDOM of speech.

    • LARRY JOHNSON

      Obama doesn’t abide by white mans laws-obama robs-cheats & commits crimes daily–impeach & jail the criminal hack

      • phred01

        he is the typical ‘hood’ gansta.

      • Rx7pj

        This case has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama. What is wrong with you???

        • EXNFLFAN

          Rx7pj! Well that’s not exactly true. If Obama and his henchmen Governors hadn’t started the Anti-gun crusade they have, most likely this gun store would still be in business, and none of this would have happened! SO yes, Obama, and his cronies, well sort of did have something to do with all this bull crap going on!

          • Rx7pj

            Ya right, it snowed on Minnesota last week , since Obama is the president must have had something to do with that too.

          • Maria

            Rx7pj, Holder and Obama have wanted to restrict access to guns for legal gun owners since before you idiots voted for Obama not ONCE but TWICE. Minnesota-haven for ISIS wannabes.

          • Rx7pj

            Wake up already. I repeat this,article has NOTHING, ZIP, ZERO to do with Obama. What the hell is wrong with you people???

          • rwp24382

            When you decide to pull your head out from between your legs, look carefully at the sign at the top of the article. This sign infuriated many liberals and the man kept putting other similar messages up. Word got to the DOJ and this man was to be made an example of.

            Operation Chokepoint was developed by the DOJ in order to put gun stores, such as this one out of business. The DOJ wanted revenge for a person that dared to speak his mind and offend the WH. Credit to the business was cut off choking the Alcede out of business. He couldn’t buy guns nor make his payments and went out of business. This is the similar to the IRS scandals. Put pressure on those that oppose the messiah, to the point they can no longer afford to speak out.

            This practice is what is called censorship. That is a violation of the Constitution for the government to participate or condone such actions. Since Obozo thinks he and his people are above the law, they do what they want. With what was done to put Alcede out of business, don’t you think there were sympathetic judges found to further punish Alcede? Notice the ACLU is not saying a word in this case? These are the kinds of cases they would jump all over, if there was a liberal involved.

          • ny2223jv

            Right on

          • Daniel Carson

            Finally someone who has a true fact, Libturd Socialist Commies hate factual truths? Are you one RX7 ?

          • Rx7pj

            Where do you get your information??? This is “Operation Chokepoint” “The investigation into banks in the United States and the business they do with payment processors, payday lenders, and other companies believed to be at higher risk for fraud and money laundering” It was NOT I repeat NOT put in place to put gun stores out of business. Get off your hate wagon and look at facts for a change. The DOJ was not involved in this case what so ever. There is NOBODY seeking revenge on this business, with the possible exception of the bank which Tactical owes over 6 Million, that’s why the bank declared them in default.
            There is NO censorship , no scandal no attempt and punishment and has NOTHING to do with liberal or conservative views.
            This is about a gun store who is in default over loans and decided to post ridiculous comments on their sign blaming everyone for his problems except himself. HE is to blame NO ONE else.
            Get a life and quit making up garage.

          • Greyguy

            In this case we do not know why this man could not repay or could not refinance his loans, but there were many cases where gun & ammo manufacturers, as well as gun stores were not able to renew their loans due to pressure from this programs federal administrators[read DOJ] threatening bankers with audits that loans were withdrawn. I am not taking sides, but be very careful before saying the DOJ did not have a hand in something when Holder is around suppressing rights as described above.

          • Rx7pj

            Hold er is NOT suppressing rights. Where do you get this crap??
            There is NOTHING in this article or anywhere that points to the DOJ having anything to do with this store at all. If you have proof otherwise show it or shut up.
            The operation the DOJ was running was to investigate banks, not stores, about fraud and money laundering. Nothing to do with guns

          • Greyguy

            First , Read what I wrote, before you bloviate. In this case we have no idea why the guy went out of business.
            Second, the Justice Department used Operation Chokepoint to intimidate banks into not renewing loans to gun related businesses which were totally legit, that my friend is intimidation and suppressing ones rights, I only hope it happens to you so you understand. Also ask the little old white ladies in Philadelphia who were intimidated at the votong polls by the Black Panthers who Holder choose not to prosecute, that is bigotry and suppression of rights by the chief law enforcement officer of the USA.
            Third, educate yourself. I get this “crap” by reading all sides of issues before running my mouth or pen.

          • Rx7pj

            Education me, show us some proof of anything you said.

          • Greyguy

            Try educating yourself by pressing the Google button on your computer and you will get over a hundred responses, try Choke Point Guns; it has even been the subject of a Congressional inquiry and and a Community Bankers Association study about intimidation by the DOJ and the costs associated with audits. You are like one of my College students who refises to read their homework assignments and can’t understand the subsequent discussions, I will not do your homework. You will begin to see why Holder is so hated by the business community.

          • Rx7pj

            Try educating yourself, this program was not initiated to solely target gun shops it also got strip joints and and same day cash loan businesses. Check this http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/12/meet-four-business-owners-squeezed-by-operation-choke-point/

            As far as congressional inquiry, right now the republicans think EVERYTHING from this administration a conspiracy, so it’s meaningless.

          • Greyguy

            Never said this was the purposeof the program, but it’s funny how Holder bends things to his AGENDA ISN’T IT. If When the
            CIA/NSA look more transparent than the Whitehouse, I woud say why shouldn’t we doult their intentions, so far this president has failed on the truth meter on almost every major issue he has addressed [I would list them but he is up for liar of the year along with Putin..enough said]. Nope, it is not a conspiracy, its an outright assalt on the middle class and the business community. To what end, I am not sure this guy even knows.

          • Rx7pj

            Show me sone proof that Holder is bending anything to meet some make believe agenda you created.
            The president as not failed on the truth meter as badly as you believe, it’s just you don’t like the truth.
            There is no assult on the middle class, I have no idea where you come up with delusions like that.. Truth be known the democrats are know as the party of the middle class for a reason, just lIke the republicans are known as the party of the wealthy.

          • Greyguy

            Bend over, I hope you enjoy the Obama exploration team looking for new revenue streams, because they have tapped most of us conservatives in the middle class, so its your turn for a ream job…enjoy. Over and out.

          • Rx7pj

            Yup just like the rest of you right wingers , ask for proof And you change the subject. Just what do you consider being tapped as right wingers vs the rest of the real world.

          • Greyguy

            Is that why our spending power has declined so much under this president due to his economic policies, higher taxes, ACA, and the devaluation of the dollar causing our everyday purchases to rise by somewhere close to 10% per year or don’t you ever go to the super market; would you like a list of the products at WalMart that have risen by over 50% since he has been in office? Dollar devaluation = inflation to the middle class ans to those not as fortunate, our president is not our friend.

          • Rx7pj

            Just how much has your spending power declined?? I’m on a fixed income and the only thing effecting mine is inflation , which is less then what I made on investments. What higher taxes? The only “tax increase ” was when the Bush tax cuts expired, not new taxes. What do you think the ACA us doing to you?? Hasn’t effected me or the vast majority of Americans. What polices have lead to the devaluation if the dollar? ?
            Since most of Walmart products come from China just how is Obama manipulating those prices. Food prices have risen but if you check it mainly because of the drought we’ve been experiencing. You think that’s Obama’s fault too??
            What polices are the republicans going to put in place that you think will help you??? Good luck coming up with that list.

          • Greyguy

            Obama’s Administration spending money we do not have and printing it to make up the difference devalues the dollar when we purchase goods from overseas; since we do not produce much anymore that is a lot, even in agriculture. As oil prices rose 30%+ worldwide,i the US experienced a 60%+ increase in oil/gas prices, because we devalued the dollar relative to the other currencies. The only reason the oil supply in the US has gone up is the price being high, a lot of low productivity wells have been brought back on line since they have been too expensive to operate in the past. The draught is a marginal item since most of the food is from overseas. The inflation you feel is devaluation caused by government overspending. Obama is not manipulating, he is just screwing the people he claims to want to help, middle class and low income. If you are retied the ACA is removing money from Medicare and raising my Medicare premiums along with all other insurance premiums for the middle class, big time. Lower income you get a subsidy ,but the premiums are still going up…before Obama my wife[she is still working] and I used to pay under $5000 in total medical costs, depending on the yaear and how we hit the deductable we have had total out of pocket cost go as high as $13000. That is lower spending power due to our friend in the White house that far excedes inflation.
            Getting rid of stupid regulation for regulations sake would be a start, we have more businesses moving out of the US due to high costs that have nothing to do with the envirnment that do any good. The ACA is a major job liller and has raised the cost of insurance to most people by 40 to 80% by forcing us to buy benefits we do not need to subsidize others, what ever happened to personal responsibility, you seem to be able to support yourself and have saved to do it. How about a sane energy policy. How about closing the borders so we preserve jobs for US citizens and for national security interests? We already have 40 million Illegals[LaRaza and the conservatives agree on that] that is quite enough!

          • b4k9zp

            YOu are really ignorant. The tax INCREASE was voted into effect at obama’s insistence. The Bush tax cuts had no expiration date, ignorant one. ACA will result in enormous tax increased on everyone, and is totally unconstitutional in any case.

            Policies leading to devaluation of the dollar: Excessive spending on items that were never authorized by any part of the US Constitution,such as welfare of any kind, emergency relief of any kind, subsidies of any kind to any entity, food stamps, aid for dependent children, social security, medicare, medicaid, the unaffordable and unconstitutional “Affordable Care Act”, homeland security, TSA, EPA, Department of Education, Senate and House pension plans and medical care programs, and so on.

            Republican policies that will help all Americans: Eliminate the Department of Education. Eliminate the Affordable Care Act. Eliminate all other welfare programs. Eliminate all subsidies to any entity for any purpose. Eliminate all pensions and health care above what the average citizen PAYS for for all public employees. CUT TAXES at least to 35% top marginal income tax rate.

            Food prices have risen, not because of the drought, but because of subsidies to corn growers and corn to ethanol conversion plants, which is a waste of money. Ethanol cuts fuel mileage almost linearly according to the percent ethanol in gasoline–10% ethanol cuts fuel mileage about 10%, 15% ethanol reduces mileage about 15%, and so on. So yes, that’s obama’s fault.

            You just prefer not to use what passes for a brain for any form of thinking.

          • b4k9zp

            Where are any facts in your bloviating? You have presented zero facts. Just your idiotic pro-obama opinions.

          • b4k9zp

            Remember the George Zimmerman case? Zimmerman was charged with 2nd degree murder without ever being indicted, as the Fifth Amendment REQUIRES in any criminal case. The reason for that was that Adolf Holder and Adolf obama demanded that Zimmerman be prosecuted no matter what the evidence in the case said.

            So your every claim is a lie.

            The president, like you, has never told the truth about anything, starting with his eligibility to be president. He had claimed for the first 46 years of his life that he was born in Kenya. And his father’s stepmother insisted all her life that she had helped to deliver the infant obama junior in a Nairobi kenya hospital in 1961.

            Your blatant lie that the republicans are the party of the wealthy while the democrats are the party of the middle class is refuted by the fact that every one of the 10 richest members of Congress are Democrats, including Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi. And Obama is a multimillionaire himself. So you are a liar.

          • b4k9zp

            You refuse to read the legitimate sources and believe what the liar obama says. You are a worshiper at his feet.

          • Banjo

            You try to dispute a point you view as one-sided and incorrect by providing “proof” with a link to a one-sided, politically left-skewed website!? Seems legit to me!?

          • Rx7pj

            To you every media that does NOT bash Obama is left skewed, why is that??? Why dont you just believe the truth?? This operation was NOT designed by Obama, period. And to think it was initiated solely to shut down gun shops us ridiculous.

          • b4k9zp

            Your every comment has repeatedly been proven to be false, so nothihg you state has any validity.

          • b4k9zp

            Google it yourself.

          • LastGasp

            Don’t even respond to Rxdipshit. It is a well known troll that gets paid per response. No response=no $ for the shill.

          • Greyguy

            What about Rx7pj, he seems a bit of a PIA a d just wants to generate responses?

          • b4k9zp

            obama has been suppressing rights since he was elected. He signed the strengthened and expanded PATRIOT ACT into law when the Democratic party controlled COngress strengthened and expanded that law. He violated Anwar Al -Awlaki’s civil right not to be deprived of his life without due process, when he had him murdered by drone strike. he violated the rights of church-owned and moral business owners not to pay for abortion and the abortion pills, effectively establishing a religion iln this country. He suppressed everyone’s civil rights when he signed the amended National Defense Authorization bill into law in which the amendment said the governmen could jail anyone in the USA without ever telling them of the charges against them, or allowing them to have an attorney or to have a speedy trial in the jurisdiction in which any alleged crime occurred.

            Nothing you state has any validity, for the Operation Chokepoint program was solely designed to shut down credit for gun related businesses.

          • b4k9zp

            Holder has been suppressing rights. He encouraged the Florida prosecutor and judge to decide to violate George Zimmerman’s fifth amendment protected right not to be tried for any crime unless he was first indicted by a grand jury That’s enough to disprove your every statement.

          • rwp24382

            We don’t know why the man was unable to repay his loans, other than his credit was cut off by the banks. He was unable to get any local banks to help him out, despite the fact the man had paid his bills and had good credit up until that time.

          • jcheckler

            They (the Obama Administration and Department of “Justice”) were directly responsible for the “Fast and Furious” gun running scandal, and have been actively trying to limit Americans 2nd Amendment rights; especially since Sandy Hook and all of the other mass shootings. Remember the 17 “Executive orders” Obama signed into [Federal] law? These people are simply pointing out the current hostile environment gun store owners are operating in and how government legislation under Obama and other such regulations [at Federal, state and local levels], are making it difficult for these Gun Stores, Gun Manufacturers, and ancillary related suppliers to stay in business. Understand Rubberband? Or are you so stupid as to continue arguing the point that [you believe in your ignorance], that this particular case has absolutely nothing to do with Obama. The truth is, you don’t know if his having to sell his business had anything to do with Obama or not. So can we just leave it at that? It is more complicated potentially than you know or understand. The way I understand it (and I could be wrong), is that Holder was attempting to suppress the issuance of new bank loans to certain businesses including FFL holders (gun dealers).

          • Rx7pj

            If you believe what you are saying, then why don’t you address your comments to the people here that think this is just another Obama conspiracy. And most of their problems have NOTHING to do with Obama either, that’s just a cop out.
            there is NO more political tyranny now then there has been under Bush. If holder was trying to suppress loans (which I doubt ) it was aimed at fraud and money laundering, not guns

          • rwp24382

            Where is any of your evidence that what we have all said is not true? You are a typical troll. You have no evidence of anything, but accuse everyone else is lying to you. Lay some evidence on us of how YOU know what you are talking about.

            We have all READ articles not censored by the MSM. WE understand how to read and think for ourselves, unlike the “low information” voters, such as you.

            Like Ronal Reagan said, “It’s not the liberals purposely lie, but they know so many facts that just aren’t so.”.

          • Rx7pj

            Thus is so typical of right winged responses. First you use the term “troll” , dies that make you feel superior or something?? Second you demand proof that what you said is not true., when you should be showing us proof to back up your ignorant accusations.
            I didn’t accuse you of anything, just back up your accusations or shut up
            you dont think I have any facts, let’s see yours, because I know you don’t have any.
            So put up or shut up

          • b4k9zp

            You have not supplied one single fact to refute the truthful statements by those to whom you have lost the argument.

            You are a liar, and have been repeatedly proven to be a liar many times on many forums.

          • rwp24382

            I think the verification of everything we have said will happen for sure after the first of the year,when Boehner is replaced as speaker. When there is a tough conservative put in his place, Lois Lerner can be arrested for her abuse of office and lying to Congress. At that point, it will be found out how she illegally targeted only conservative groups for harassment, while liberal groups were passed through in as less as a month. The only illegal thing the conservative groups did, was to be politically opposed to Democrats.

            Once that happens, the house of cards will start to fall. Lerner will willingly give up information on the DOJ and WH connections to keep from going to prison. If she lives that long. She may have a mysterious death right before she testifies, like the lady in Hawaii that had information on Obama’s forged birth certificate.

            Just wait and see what happens.

          • Rx7pj

            Wow, that’s some delusion take some advice, don’t hold your breath for ANY of this to happen.

          • rwp24382

            What you need to read is the article from WND on the top ten stories buried by the media. It confirms a lot of what we have said. As a steeple, I’m sure you’ll find a way not to read the article, because low information voters can’t accept the truth.

          • Rx7pj

            I read it, so what? ? It’s an ultra right winged OPINION nothing more. By the way NONE OF these stories were buried by the media, I’ve seen them ALL before. And none of them validate anything you said.
            Finally all the “low information voters are republicans, Limbaugh talks about them all the time, that’s where that came from. YOU Know who he is right, he’s your right winged leader that keeps telling you that you don’t have to think, he’ll do that for you.

          • rwp24382

            That’s exactly what I thought. You can’t accept the truth if it hit you up the side of the head. No, the low information voters are Dems. It was James Carville, one of Bill Clinton’s strategists, was asked how he was so successful in his campaigns for Clinton. He said that the Democrat voters are 85% politically ignorant. He said all you have to do is say something that is true or not and they will repeat and chant it. He said that they will follow like sheeple. That’s one of your own telling the truth about liberals. He went further to say that his tactics wouldn’t work with those aligned with the GOP, because they were a smarter and more educated group as a whole, that couldn’t easily be brainwashed.

          • Rx7pj

            Look moron it’s you that can’t except the truth. I read yiur link and it Validates NOTHING you said. Can’t you read what I said??? Why dont you hold your breath that way you won’t be around long.
            The term low information voter is a product of your leader Limbaugh and all one has to see is who they voted for in the last election a verify that.
            I see you follow limbaugh’s instructions to the letter, that is you don’t think

          • rwp24382

            I’m getting very bored with you. You haven’t presented any evidence of what you say, but claim everyone else is wrong. It is quite clear you are a paid operative troll from the Dems. I know you trying to throw out a bunch of misinformation. It just ain’t gonna work. I’m tired of fooling with you. Find someone else to lie to.

          • Rx7pj

            Or the last time you ignorant moron, if YOU make the accusations YOU supply the supporting proof. Why is that so hard for you to understand????
            I’m not trying to throw any misinformation that’s what you are doing I’m just asking for proof and ALL you can come up with is telling me to proof you wrong.
            So offer some proof of your ignorant accusations or shut the hell up.

          • b4k9zp

            Your preference for calling others “moron” proves that nothing you state has any validity, for your comments show that you know you have no factual evidence, nor any conceivable form of logic or reasoning to support your own idiotic obama-worshiping opinions.

            The low information voters are those like you who prefer not to know anything that is actually happening in the world.

          • Greyguy

            If this guy were a dog there would be a muzzle in his future, since he engages his mouth before what he calls a brain.

          • b4k9zp

            It was aimed at putting gun owners out of business, despite your lies.

          • jcheckler

            You are obviously ignorant of all of the crimes committed by Obama, his administration, and Holder. You are also obviously ignorant of their anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment agenda.

          • Rx7pj

            WHAT crimes?? I’ve seen all kinds of ridiculous accusations from people like you but NO crimes NO facts, NOTHING to support their conclusions except opinion .
            And there is NO anti 2ND amendment agenda. That is just another delusion of the right wingers.

          • rwp24382

            You must have your head buried so far up you butt, you use your Adam’s apple to see where you’re going. There is no “hate” in anything I wrote. It’s just you’re so thin skinned that anyone question the “messiah” is a racist and a hater.
            Do you know what the IRS scandals are about? It was a woman that felt she was above the law and was given the go ahead by the DOJ and WH to target certain people, not because they were criminals, but because of their opposition to the administration. THAT is called censorship. They wanted to shut down any political speech that opposed the “messiah”.
            Do you know why there are still investigations about Benghazi? The administration put out lies about the attack and why Obozo gave a stand down order to the military to save the 4 people that were killed. What other motives were aligned with the action? The administration had their own people do partisan hacks to do a half-assed investigation that found no one at fault for anything. What the media doesn’t want to cover is that the 29 people that survived the attack were split up into more or less individual prisons, where they aren’t allowed contact with the press or other outside sources to tell their side of the story. They are being held and interrogated monthly to find out if they have talked to anyone. What is Obozo so afraid of? They may get the chance to tell their side of the story this coming year.
            Why did Obozo and the DOJ authorize spying on the media, by the NSA? They wanted to find people that leaked information that made Obozo look bad. Did they leak national secrets? If you consider that the DOJ has conducted several criminal activities, that would be the only way. It was again to shut down anyone that could embarrass the “messiah”. That again is called censorship.
            This administration has been “hell bent” in trying to punish those that speak out against them. Sheryl Atkinson was let go by CBS, because she dared to ask too many questions about Benghazi that might embarrass the WH. Is that not censorship?
            Another example of target censorship, Gibson guitar was raided twice by the armed agents of the IRS, because they dared contribute to a GOP candidate and not to the Dems. People were held at gun point for no reason. No arrests were made, but some of their stock and office equipment was taken. Some of the stolen private property of Gibson has never been returned. Supposedly the property was taken in a dispute in how some of the Rosewood got to the plant. What wood Gibson had was perfectly legal, but was not returned for a couple years. They made a Government Model Gibson, that has some of the returned wood on the neck. Isn’t that punishing someone for no reason, to make an armed raid on a guitar company?
            Greyguy is right. Operation Chokepoint was exactly what he described to you. It pressured banks to cut off funding to gun and ammo distributers to put them out of business. People that dared to speak out and get national attention were targeted to try and put out of business as examples.

          • Rx7pj

            Unbelievable, where do you get your “information” or in your case misinformation.

            One at a time, the IRS scandal. In the first place this was NOT one woman taking directions form the WH and justice to target certain people because they oppose the president. Why do you people want to call him the messiah,nobody else does. The specific department of the IRS that was a target of the right for illegal activity was doing exactly what they were hired to do. That is investigate organizations who apply for tax exempt status,specifically political organizations.organizations. The mistake she made was to use the term tea party to help identify organizations to investigate. NOT the investigation,the IRS has been doing this for YEARS not just during the Obama administration. by the way NONE of the tea party groups were denied tax exempt status. If there is a scandal is that these political organizations GET tax exempt status.
            Why are they still investigating Benghazi??? God only knows, best guess is to cover the fact that the republicans are not doing ANYTHING to help our country. The WH did NOT put out lies, there was NO stand down order, those are just fantasies invented by you on the right.NO facts exist to support anything you said.Where you got the rest of your story is beyond me, probably from some right winged site that comes up with mores fantasies for you to believe. No facts here either.

            Why do you morons call the president names??? Are you really that immature?? The NSA spying was authorized by Bush, was he afraid the media would make him look bad??? Get a life there is absolutely NO truth in anything you said here with the exception that NSA was spying on Americans. If there is show us some proof. ( I know you hate that word ).
            The fact that a CBS employee was let go by has NO, NONE connection to the administration. Thats just made up crap from the right. again NO facts or anything to support your ridiculous accusation.
            Gibson guitar was raided by the Justice department NOT the IRS and it was for using illegal endangered wood from Madagascar It had NOTHING to do with political contributions. Where do you get this crap???
            Finally operation checkpoint was designed to target BANKS for FRAUD and MONEY LAUNDERING. NOT gun and ammo distributors. If there were gun manufacturers or ammo distributors that were laundering money or had committed fraud they should be targeted don’t’ you think. Get a life
            Why don’t you do a little checking for facts BEFORE you spout more crap.

          • b4k9zp

            When you call others morons, you prove that you are a liar, that you know that you have no facts whatever, and that you have no conceivable or possible form of logic, reasoning ability or thinking ability to support your own idiotic opinions. Since you have never done anything but call others names, you are more than somewhat hypocritical in accusing others of ddoing so.

            Gibson guitars, despite your lies, was using no illegal woods. It was raided in violation of the fourth and fifth amendment because Gibson was a non-union company. Operation Chokepoint (look at the name) : :WAS in fact set up to shut off credit to gun store owners and gun manufacturers, and put them outof business, since the fraudulent president could not get the majority in congress to go along with his unconstitutional gun control laws.

            Since your diatribes are nothing but lies, you have no credibility.

          • b4k9zp

            Operation chokepoint was designed, like the IRS investigations only into conservative and religious entities claiming tax exempt status at the direction of this fraudulent president, to put legitimate gun store owners out of business, despite your lies

          • Rx7pj

            Wrong on all counts again.
            Let’s see your proof of your accusations

          • b4k9zp

            The proof has been provided to you multiple times. Google it yourself. You don’t believe factual information when it has been presented to you because you are genetically unable to recognize the truth.

          • b4k9zp

            Yes, the IRS went into ONLY businesses that loaned money to firearms manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers, despite your lies.

            Why does the business owe money? Because they could not get loans to buy new stock and replenish their inventory, because of Operation Chokepoint’s unconstitutional censorship and the obama administration’s transparent attempts to deny ALL American citizens their constitutionally protected civil right and birth right to possess and carry arms.

            Your only and preferred method of “argument” is to say “get a life and quit making up garbage”, for you know that you have no facts of any kind, nor any conceivable or possible form of logic, thinking ability, or reasoning ability to support your hoplophobic, irrational, anti-gun and pro slavery opinions.

          • LastGasp

            Says who? You? A well known troll?

          • Rx7pj

            Certainly not a brainwashed right winger like you

          • b4k9zp

            You love to lie a lot. And every time you post, we know you are lying.

          • b4k9zp

            The president is responsible for all unconstituitonal actions taken by federal, state and local courts.

          • b4k9zp

            We ARE wide awake. That’s your problem. You’ve been in a self-induced coma since 2008 when the fraudulent obama began running for office. You support him ONLY because his skin is black.

          • b4k9zp

            What is wrong with YOU that you refuse to see the truth?

          • Daniel Carson

            Michigan and the rest of the Union at that and there BS Sharia wanna be law of this Constitutional Republic..

          • ny2223jv

            Why not it would have been Bushes fault of a dumocrap said it

          • Rx7pj

            Wake up

          • zookeeper216

            OMG, it’s Mr. Conservative! Fancy meeting you here.

          • b4k9zp

            Weather has nothing to do with violation of the COnstitution, ignorant one.

        • ny2223jv

          If the potus doesn’t follw the law why should anyone Now do you get it

          • Rx7pj

            He DOES follow the law. Only you right winged morons think otherwise.

          • ny2223jv

            You are part of the problem

          • Rx7pj

            You ARE the problem.

          • rwp24382

            Which laws does he follow? The ones he makes up on his own, or the ones he chooses not to enforce? His job is as an executive to make sure the law of the Constitution is enforced, not make up his own laws.

          • Rx7pj

            Why do you expect people to verify your ridiculous accusations for you??? You make the accusations it’s up to YOU to offer proof.
            So show us, what laws doesn’t the president follow?? Specifically

          • b4k9zp

            Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, for starters, which obama deliberately violated by giving 5 million illegal aliens AMNESTY by executive order, an UNCONSTITUTIONAL act!

            Fifth Amendment–He deprived Anwar Al-Awlaki and one other US citizen of their lives without due process of law by ordering their murder by drone strike in his first fraudulent term.

            Article II, section one, paragraph five of the Constitution. He is not a natural born citizen of the USA, and is ineligible to be president or vice president.

          • b4k9zp

            When you call others morons, you prove that you are a liar, that you
            know that you have no facts whatever, and that you have no conceivable
            or possible form of logic, reasoning ability or thinking ability to
            support your own idiotic opinions. Since you have never done anything
            but call others names, you are more than somewhat hypocritical in
            accusing others of ddoing so.

          • b4k9zp

            He follows the law? ROFLMAO! His recent executive action/order/proclamation giving five million illegal aliens amnesty was a blatant violation of the Simpson Mazzoli Act of 1986 which requires that any illegal alien living in this country who was not resident in the Country before June 1, 1982 to be deported without further delay.

            YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR!

        • EXNFLFAN

          Rx7pj, yes in fact, President Obama, DID order an Executive Order declaring snow on Minnesota. Extreme cold in the Central States, and more rain for East Coast, just to take the “heat” off his stupid golf game, which he lost by the way by 30 strokes!

          • Rx7pj

            ??????

        • b4k9zp

          obama is president. every unconstitutional action by any level of government is rightly attributed to him.

        • b4k9zp

          It has everything to do wih obama. What is wrong with you? You prefer not to see all the problems obama has caused because his skin is black.

        • LastGasp

          I thought you were banned.

          • Rx7pj

            I thought you were dead

      • Sean Johnston

        Please

      • Juicey Bananas

        And bring back public executions so the taxpaying public can watch our tax dollars finally working for the good of all Americans.

    • Rx7pj

      What the hell does Obama have to do with this???

      • bug

        Ur a Democrat, aren’t u?

        • Rx7pj

          What does my politucal affiliatin have to do with this?? This is about who owns the Facebook acct moron. Nothing more.

          • b4k9zp

            The fact that you prefer only to call others “moron” shows you know that you have no facts whatever, or any conceivable form of logic, thinking ability or reasoning ability to support any of your irrational and quite idiotic opinions.

  • Traveller62

    All he has to do is delete the FB page. Problem solved. He can do that while in jail. That will show that communist judge where the real authority is.

    • silvernotes

      If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you!

      • Traveller62

        Explain please. Read omega2’s answer. Just delete it. No problem. Read FB’s terms of service.

        • silvernotes

          If you think this stuff disappears with a push of a button or that FB will not cave under government pressure (or hacking) you are kidding yourself.

  • Daniel from TN

    We also live in an era of illiteracy and little educational achievement. I lost count of the misspelled words and incorrect grammar usage in the article. I wonder if the writer attended public schools.

    • Johnny Graham

      It is not how you say but what you say that counts.Those that can hear ,let them hear.

      • scotlad219

        So glad rridgsr can how much of an uneducated fool you are

    • William Dean

      Daniel—–you are so right! I’m an unemployed English/Social Sciences teacher in Mexifornia. I got tired of teaching illegals how to read, write and speak English, this country’s official language as well as the corrupt teacher’s labor union (CTA) I had to belong to. I told my principal and the local board of education in writing and vocally to take their day care job and shove it. I feel a whole lot better for having done so. Happy New Year and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

      • silvernotes

        Thanks for standing up and being counted, even at your own expense.

        • William Dean

          Silvernotes—-You’re assuming that school board members can actually count.

          • silvernotes

            Maybe not, but I’ll bet if all the teachers walked out in support they’d get the message. It has to start with one.

      • scotlad219

        As an immigrant ( LEGAL) to this GREAT America sometimes i wonder where I went wrong by becoming Legal

    • rridgsr

      You sound just like an Educated fool to me .

      • William Dean

        You sound like an uneducated fool to me.

        • b4k9zp

          Caling others a “fool” only proves that you are the fool.

  • omega2

    This Judge is TOTALY WRONG! He is breaching a CONTRACT with F-BOOK and client! The F-BOOK PASS WORD belongs to the ORIGINAL OWNER and no one else! SO ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE AN IGNORANT KOOL AID PUTIN JR. BUTT LICKER SITTING ON THE PEOPLES BENCH THAT NEEDS REMOVING!

    • Daniel from TN

      Here is the question the judge is trying to answer. Who is the Facebook client, the former owner of the gun shop or the gun shop itself?

      • b4k9zp

        and obviously, the answer is that the former owner of the gun shop is the facebook client, since his facebook page is in hisname.

  • Kathy Andersen

    NO ONE IS TO HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR FB PASSWORD, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT

    • rridgsr

      It seems that is impossible their all for sell period all a Judge is a lawyer that could not make a living at it which is pretty sorry.

    • The Fox

      Somehow Russia got my pass word and took over my computer and when I would try to type or answer someone on face book it would come out in Russian, watch out people, evil is ruling this evil world.

      • ipsd48

        Probably something simpler than a russian hack.
        Damn cat walked accross the keys on my printer and everything started coming up Polish. Quite a headache switching it back to englsh.

        • The Fox

          Had to get rid of my old computer and buy a new one. God Bless and Happy New Year.

  • Dennis B Anderson

    Obama has nothing to say about our reporters we have lost since he came on board. The numbers are more than 50, and less than 100 count. The thing is he doesnt care it wont get him to wrinkle up his forehead. What does get him to frown is being asked what hes going to do about it??? Nothing – nothing -nothing is what hes going to do about it. Hes muslim for christs sake.!!! These people want to kill us wake up! The muslim brotherhood are killing christians and Obama is funding them. Wake – up. His brother is financier for the Muslim Brotherhood. Obamas is trying to strip away our guns rights.Hes rushing in mexican immigrants with a flick of a switch all you white people are in troubleeeee. Nothing is being said about the 35,000 cubans Obama promised a Cuban dignatary at Mandellas funeral. Why didnt anyone ask us if we wanted our government to shove down our throats a one size fits all health experiments. They will know everything about you everything and you were going to pay for that. If Obama has no trouble going to the source where we get the lead for our ammunition loads whats next. He shut down the mine. Whats going on with our senators & congressmen. You know I truly beleive they are afraid of the color black. Is Obamas time table messed up? He should go for the guns first then a take over of our country. Would the mexicans fight for citizenship my guess is 50%
    What an army already and more forcasted in the near future. Why havent we closed our borders or are we already not a soverign nation anymore.

    • conservative since 1962

      What does this have to do with the subject of the article we are comment upon?

      • rridgsr

        Every thing he does is the same thing as that !!!!!

      • Dennis B Anderson

        Well with Obama shuting down the guns & ammo stores telling the banks not to finance them is just the tip. Hes doing all of these things as well and its not condusive to anyones health. Thats what this has to do with Obama taking our lead & guns. Read this realllllllll sloww!!
        Of cource you already knew this stuff didnt you. Find out for yourself who Obamas golfing with today and what score he had. Maybe that would interest you.

  • Ed McConnell

    What!

  • Dan

    It all comes down to the sales contract. If the facebook page was paid for as part of the sale with the store. If there is no record of the FB page being included, the new owner can sit on it and spin ’til he is dizzy!

  • TrueAmerican

    Im still confused why ANYONE would have a FB account. Why does everyone have to tell the world their personal business and why would anyone care? Hi everybody I took a 4# crap today aint I special. FB is for people that don’t have a life.

  • Don Purkess

    No one has the right to be forced to give up thier PASSWORD! Remember our First & Second Amendents! I went to war to protect these rights!

    • scotlad219

      Thanks for your sacrifice my Hero Even though obama Is doing so much to give away what you and your fellow brave soldiers sacrified so much for….FREEDOM

  • Dempsey Coleman

    These New Owners are just Paranoid
    and want something they did not build
    or Own

  • scotlad219

    No such thing as the 1st Amendment under obama

    • Oingo Boingo

      No such thing as a Constitutional Republic either.
      Soetoro is building on what Cheney and The Bush Crime Family worked on…
      for the unclean pleasure of their Zionist jew/shabbos goyim overlords.
      The Repukacrats and the Demopublican swine have been busy since 1913 destroying this nation.
      It REALLY got into high gear with the coup d’etat that had JFK’s head opened up in broad daylight.

      • b4k9zp

        nothing you state has any validity, especially with your idiotic claims about the Fed and JFK.

        Your hatred of Jews negates everything you state.

        This nation was built as a constitutional republic, and only as a constitutional republic, despite your lies.

        • Oingo Boingo

          Don’t you ever get weary of being a raving, slobbering buttmonkey ?

          • b4k9zp

            Do you never get tired of being a racist, anti-semitic boor who never has any facts, logic or reasoning ability to support your disgusting racist comments?

          • Oingo Boingo

            Facts to your dumb ass/face are like water drops rolling off of a duck’s back.
            A lot of what you deny is proven; you deny it because your anal sphincter is too tight around your scrawny dirty neck, thereby depriving your walnut sized brain of oxygen, more so.
            Hence, the spluttering babble for which you are infamous.
            Go to the window. Do The Right Thing.

          • b4k9zp

            Since you have never presented anything resembling facts, nothing you state has any validity whatever. What you state is false, and utterly contemptuous, and a blatant lies.

            Your hatred extends to demanding that others kill themselves, because you know you have lost the argument.

        • Oingo Boingo

          It’s now crystal clear that your mad ranting and raving, accompanied by flecked spittle, popped out head and neck veins and eyeballs, will only cease with the cold embrace of Death.
          So, go now to the window.
          Go to the window.
          The window calls out to you.
          Go to the window.
          When you go through the window, it will all stop.
          Go to the window.
          The window wants you.
          Go to the window…like the vile snoid that you are.
          Go to the window.

          • b4k9zp

            Your hatred of anyone who dares to point out your vile disgusting hatred of Jews and of Israel is really nauseating. Your advocacy of murder shows you should be banned from commenting on this and all forums.

          • Oingo Boingo

            It’s not “murder”, Buttmonkey…it’s suicide.
            You know, the thing that you need.
            Your totalitarian willingness to ban my slams on your deranged ass/face speaks volumes regarding the dust storm raging in between your hairy, waxy ears…in that moldy golfball that passes for your brain.
            Why don’t you just run out into the Interstate Highway NOW and get it over with.

          • b4k9zp

            To quote your own hate-filled post: “Your totalitarian willingness to ban” my factual comments about your despicable and disgusting hatred of Jews is disgusting. Your telling others to go kill themselves is a clear indication that you are driven by hatred of everyone, including yourself

            You are nauseating.

          • Oingo Boingo

            Thank you, Willy The Worm.
            I HOPE that you puke yourself into a coma, and CHANGE into the vegetable I know that you want to be.
            Take a long walk off of a short pier, I’m done with you and your whiney ranting and raving.

  • KayO

    Why was he jailed if this is a civil matter? Anyone who lives in his area needs to go by to visit him and offer moral support. He has the right to withhold his Face Book password. It’s HIS and ONLY HIS.

    • b4k9zp

      probably contempt of court.

  • J.B. Young

    I would go to jail before I gave them the password!

  • I guess the jails will be full soon because no ones going to take mt guns.

  • marlene

    The facebook account belongs to the original owner, is in his name, and this lawsuit is frivolous and should be dismissed, if an honest judge could be found.

    • palehorse58

      That’s the operative word (honest judge).

      • Oldvet

        another oximoron !

  • MILES E DRAKE

    I would not be surprised if the regime is behind this, attempting to compile a watch list of pro-Second Amendment enemies of the state to be rounded up by DOJ or FEMA, targeted in government-instigated race riots or killed or droned by security forces. We are months if not weeks away from a serious attempt at the activation of the apparatus of dictatorship that has been under construction since 2009, and anglophone Judeo-Christian European-Americans must accordingly be prepared for the new Kristalnacht at any time.

  • grassroot

    More fascism by and from our homegrown liberal Fascists.

  • lostproton

    “The judge hearing the case has now appointed an outside administrator to count the number of business posts versus business posts.” This needs to be corrected to read: The judge hearing the case has now appointed an outside administrator to count the number of business posts versus personal posts. As long as Jeremy Alcede did not post advertisements or sales for the gun shop on what is his personal page and there is no business name on the Facebook account with no business expenses attributed to the account, then the court has no jurisdiction over his Facebook page.

  • Jj Doodah

    The “Seller’ is Wrong….the Business Page goes with the Business sale. The Seller’s just being a cry baby that couldn’t make it in the gun business. The new owner, if he isn’t already invested in the business, should nullify the contract and walk away, or at least recoup the cost to replace the web site and get a cease & desist order to stop the old one…

    • Mike Pellet

      Did you even read the article? Here is one of the parts you missed:

      “I explained to the attorney who was representing the company that there is no company Facebook page and there’s just my personal page.”

  • alfred e newman

    communist will be communist the judges limited power simply went to his fat head simply making it fatter

  • CTH

    Some judges, like the one in question, have very small brains and should not be allowed on the bench.

  • mehoppe

    Government has back door into any PC in this country. Through any Firewall. If they wanted your FB password they would already have it.

  • Oingo Boingo

    The judge is an IDIOT; no doubt an unqualified Affirmative Action Hire.
    No name or photo of Da Judge, reinforces my opinion.

  • PurpleLady 63

    The longer Obama is in the power seat our rights; constitution or not will be taken away. Obama has never defended our constitution, why it was never his in the first place. All he has done is tried to rip it to shreds, he and his czars as long as he is in power and acting like a tyrannical dictator that he is, the more desecration to the constitution he will try to accomplish.

  • rridgsr

    His password is none of their business period these dam crooks want every thing their crooked way PISS on them.

  • snowyriver

    Beautiful sign… wish I had one like it.

  • sharon

    What did he expect, we got a liar Marxist stinking Muslim in the white house who wants our guns and our freedom.

  • markypolo

    Whoa! Hold your horses. Tactical Firearms was in BANKRUPTCY!! Bankruptcy is a FEDERAL court process. A Federal Judge mediates the process. If the Lawyers can not come to an agreement, the Judge must make the decision. During a Bankruptcy, ALL assets and Liabilities MUST be presented. In THIS case, the Judge is attempting to assess whether the Facebook page is part of the Business. The The owner( Petitioner) refused to provide this proof. Therefore, is in CONTEMPT of court. Do not be fooled by these moronic attempts to get you riled up against the “system”. Let’s get the facts and use some INTELLIGENCE. If, Mr. Alcede is using a “personal” FACEBOOK page for Business use, He will undoubtably have to give it up. Just THAT simple.

  • kotoc

    Hang the judge…. HE is the traitor in this case!!!

  • bigbillofwyandotte

    I have to wonder if the judge is of an older generation and not savy as to how Facebook works. If such is the case, he needs to do some research before going any further. If he fails to do so, then he is opening himself up to having his ruling overturned if he does not rule in favor of the defendant.

  • B. Zerker

    Won’t it be interesting when/if Obozo the rest of D.C. (District of Corruption) cronies get their way and the feds get control of the internet through the “Net Neutrality Act” that they’ve been trying to shove up our back-sides…

  • LARRY JOHNSON

    Whatever you put on Facebook probably goes straight to suckbergs buddy obama/nsa

  • The Fox

    Proves once again judges make laws and don’t enforce the one’s on the books, they are not little god men and women and should go get a real job, one that doesn’t require a brain.

  • QuisPercusit

    Duh! ya’ll need to bone up on yer Bill o Rights The 4th Amendment is what is in question heah.,

  • James

    Actually First AND Fourth Amendments come into play here;the fact remains though,they can’t legally take his FB account password or read his content FROM his account-they can search the public posts,period.

    • ipsd48

      Legal or not they can’t PHYSICALLY take his FB password unless he gives it to them.
      I’d tell em to pound sand.

  • scotlad219

    You are such a blind fool Idiot

  • Watchdogman

    Sounds to me that this is not really a Texas judge. Or he is nutty as a fruitcake.

  • EXNFLFAN

    Appointed an “outside administrator to count the number of business posts versus business posts”. What the hell is that going to prove? If you count the business use then count the business use, don’t you get the same amount of business use? Is this new math or COMMON CORE math? I think the writer of the story needs to back to school and retake Journalism 101!

  • 1984 anybody?

  • ToniStimmel

    Why doesn’t the judge subpena the NSA records for that Facebooker and see for himself whether or not that account met all the criteria of intellectual property?

  • Dynamicdave

    That’s one of the reasons that I do not use Facebook for anything. They are nothing more than a tool to pry into your life. Facebook also states they have the right to use ANYTHING you publish, whether it be pictures, your personal memoirs, notes to friends that are of a personal nature, they can use it for ANYTHING they wish. So I feel no pity for anybody who has a Facebook account. Do I believe a judge has a right to access it? No, but it doesn’t matter, this guy’s going to lose. It’s all irrelevant.

  • jt

    This is a non – story. The previous owner was bilking his partners, and they took him to court and won the store, with all the debts.

    He had the fb account for the store, which is owned by the store, and the original partners. He should have gotten rid of the fb account when he was being sued, and then the courts wouldn’t be involved.

    • Dynamicdave

      Doesn’t matter if he got rid of his Facebook account. Facebook saves ALL information. The courts would still find it. Much like telephone records.

      • jt

        My point is that the ‘new’ owner is the guy that has been getting screwed. He was a partner, who was cheated out of tons of money, and he took his partner to court, and the only option to get any of his money back was to take full ownership of the store.

        There was no sale of the store, only dropping one of the partners from the corporation. The ‘new’ owner is now going to have to pay off a huge debt, including original construction costs, that were shown as paid.

        I am all for keeping the government in check, but this is a case of a greedy partner. He’s in a lot more hot water than just a FB account at this point.

        The story is written from the side of the guy that has had his day in court about his poor business dealings, and probably gotten better than what he deserves. All the contractors and employees would tell a completely different version.

  • Sprit of 1776

    Obama is a muslim, anti-American sent here to destroy America from the inside and to pigheaded socialist democratic party is willing to give up all rights of the people just to comply with baby obama. Obama came to America on a foreign passport not as an American but as a FOREIGNER.

  • J. Harp

    YOUR COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT AT WORK . . .

  • ONTIME

    If this former owner had a inkling as to the fact they wanted access to his private FB page, he could have canceled out his account and reopened it claiming the account was no longer existing…but if it was not a company FB account to begin with then why would the court even make the consideration of invasion of privacy?

  • jcheckler

    The judges and lawyers and prosecutors are out of control and operating totally illegally and tyrannically. Even if it was a company or business Facebook page, it was the intellectual property and private property of the previous owner. The new owner can start a new Facebook page.

    • jt

      It’s not a “new” owner. It is one of the partners taking full ownership from the other partner, instead of allowing the other partner to declare bankruptcy and taking any chance of getting his investment back.

      The fb account was owned by the company, not the partner. The guy that ran the company into the ground is just tasting sour grapes. Like I said before, the story was written without any knowledge of the facts of the case. The ousted partner is getting less than he deserves for his poor management of the business. I just hope that they write a story detailing all of his crimes when they are finished.

      Those of us that are in this area where the case is happening, are pleased with the changes in who runs the facility and the employees are as well.

      This is not a case of government gone bad, it’s a case of a guy getting caught screwing his partners and crying about it.

      • b4k9zp

        any proof of anything you state? Of course not.

        • jt

          I’ve got a lot more proof than the writer of the article, and it’s all public knowledge from the Harris County Courthouse, as well as being there the day that the ownership was transferred.

          I appreciate everyone’s heartfelt attempts to back up a gun store owner when they are truly forced out of business by the government, but when you see what really happened with this one, it’s difficult to muster any support. Not all FFL dealers are reputable, and there is no moral turpitude clause in the licensing requirements. I’ve been stiffed on a couple of transactions from gunbroker purchases, and never received any compensation, nor did the government take away their license. They were all taken down by their financial dealings, usually commingling funds.

          You don’t have to believe me, just read the public records.

          • b4k9zp

            I don’t believe you, because the public records don’t support you.

          • jt

            Wow. I’ve stated facts and references to allegations and actual observations, and it’s taken you two weeks to just say you don’t believe me and that public records don’t support my statements.
            Could you perhaps be more vague, or would you care to state how you have read all the documents, and specifically outline how I could have come to such a erroneous conclusion. If you actually lived here, and have seen the proceedings first hand, you would know more. If you actually knew some of the contractors and employees that have been financially harmed, you might see a different perspective. If you had read some of the “old owners” own statements and the obvious contradictions, you might also see the full situation.

            I’ve agreed that our government is out of control on a major scale and that I don’t agree with all the regulations and controls, I just don’t believe that the article as written is very factual, if not downright misleading.

            You’ve wasted too much of my time with the “I know you are, but what am I” childlike rhetoric, without offering any reason for your position, and that’s your right to be ignorant and misinformed. If you want to carry on an exchange about the merits of the actual case, bring real facts and supporting information, not just a statement of disagreement. Until then, I will cease the battle of wits with an unarmed person.

      • jcheckler

        So then you have a website like Newsmax (or whatever this is), twisting the facts (for whatever reason).

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  • msueh

    The biggest bullies today are the US government and the rest of the far left crowd.

  • Fred Barton

    I didn’t read all of the “discussions”, but might I comment that all sides, should be cool. State your case and listen to responses. You are not going to change some peoples’ minds about ideologically-determined topics. You will get “baited”. Don’t let others reel you in. Fred

    • jt

      Fred, thanks for your words. I’m hoping that the “baited” comment was not aimed at me, as all my comments are intended to get folks to do a little research before just believing what they read.
      On face value, the article seems like a slam – dunk case where a lawful business owner is getting the shaft, but there is a lot more to the story than what is written. I’m only conveying the knowledge I have from public record, friends that are past and current employees, contractors that are still not paid from the original construction of the facility, and seeing some of the events first hand.

      Just because all of this was posted on a conservative website, doesn’t mean that it is accurate nor factual. In fact, after doing some tracing on some of the gun store articles posted on this site and several others, numerous cries of foul have been where the store owner is actually committing a felony. Several of the 80% lower articles where the store was selling the legal 80% lower in the store, and helping the buyer (illegally) machine it in the back, to make it a functional lower. I don’t agree with the laws about 80% or 100% lowers any more than the next guy, but we have to play the game by the rules, or take a chance on the consequences.

      Let’s all keep up the good fight, but make your efforts worthwhile, and know when we’re backing a dark horse.

      • Fred Barton

        Thanks for the reply. I was just noting, in general, that often baiting is used to get people angry. Angry responses often produce heat rather than light. Not referring to you. Fred

  • drthack

    Well ladies and gentleman we can all agree the freedom of speech is live and well (so far). So the one thing I haven’t heard is anyone willing to stand up and be counted and stop the madness. Our fore fathers would be very disappointed to hear the bashing of our Constitution. (WE THE PEOPLE) are allowing this to happen. Who will (Stand and be heard) we the people are the cause of this. We the people allowed the corruption. Stand up America (We the People stall be heard). Stop fighting with each other and stand on the line to be heard. We the people are the ruler of this country that I love and fought for as my father who die protecting the wonderful country. We are a free Nation Stand and fight for your country. God Bless America

  • jag57

    Seems like if it was determined that the Facebook page was sold with the business, it would mean it was determined it was a business page and Facebook would be getting revenue from it. If the company was bankrupt, the previous owner wouldn’t be liable for any money owed.

  • LastGasp

    Surrendering his password would be a precedent that the leftist judicial obamobots would just love. F##k ’em!