National Reciprocity Bill Moves Farther Along

North Carolina Republican U.S. Rep. Richard Hudson on Friday spoke about his plan to sidestep the patchwork of concealed carry reciprocity laws and agreements between states.

Hudson addressed the Leadership Forum crowd at the 147th annual National Rifle Association meeting in Dallas– the only Congressman asked to do so — and spoke on both the Second Amendment and his bill, which he said he expects to be signed into law this year by President Donald Trump.

“Concealed carry reciprocity is already well-established across our country with the average state recognizing permits from more than 30 other states,” Hudson said in a statement given to Guns.com. “National concealed carry reciprocity is simply common sense, and I’m proud to lead the efforts to make it a reality.”

The proposal, H.R.38, slid through the House on a GOP-heavy 231-198 roll call after a brief debate last December while a companion bill in the Senate sponsored by U.S. Sen. John Cornyn — a Texas senator who also spoke at Dallas — has 40 co-sponsors. While the Senate proposal is currently just favored by Republicans, with mid-term elections in just over six months and polling showing that a number of Democratic Senate held seats in states that went Trump in 2016 could be in danger, it’s safe to say that some Dems may cross the aisle to support the bill in some form.

Hudson’s legislation allows law-abiding citizens to carry concealed only if they are not federally prohibited from possessing a firearm, are carrying a valid government-issued photo ID, and are lawfully licensed or entitled to carry a concealed handgun. As such it would circumvent the complex series of state and territorial reciprocity agreements that vary from one area to another, sometimes even within the same states. An improvement from the 2015 proposal that failed to move on Capitol Hill, it also provides protections for residents of a dozen or more constitutional carry states as they travel.

The measure is supported by the attorneys general of 24 states and a variety of Second Amendment organizations. Gun control groups along with Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey are among attorneys general from 15 states and the District of Columbia opposed to national reciprocity.

source: guns.com

  • disqus_rEWjgfyzIp

    “are carrying a valid government-issued photo ID, and are lawfully licensed or entitled to carry a concealed handgun”
    This is stating we need to have a national registration as well as the CC permit which will lead back to the ability to list every gun owner and where to collect their firearms. If you have a CC permit that should be enough.

    • Rodney

      Uhhh, Government-issued photo ID is a drivers license.

      • Gadget1132

        that would also include a photo ID voter registration card or a photo id card issued by a state.

      • It is a Real ID drivers license, passport book, passport card maybe a military ID. This would not include persons with drivers licensees that do not pass HLS or non-citizens or illegals with drivers license from qualifying I think (hope).

        • Rodney

          It’s my understanding that illegals granted a drivers license cannot legally buy or carry weapons. Legal immigrants and some non-immigrants can, in certain instances purchase firearms. The laws on this is very convoluted and filled with legalese. Most firearms dealers cannot even keep up or understand the laws on legal and illegal aliens and guns. Many dealers opt for the NO answer. Military ID and state issued drivers licenses are acceptable forms of Government ID’s just as a passport is. Passport cannot be from a foreign country though.

          • Not all drivers licenses are forms of Government ID’s. For now some states that have not conformed to a Real ID status for their drivers licenses for instance California, are under a waiver from the HLS for flights outside of state. These waivers have expiration dates, if a citizen does not get a HLS approved ID by the time the waiver is exhausted they will not be allowed on an aircraft crossing state lines. California only started this year with implementing drivers licenses that are HLS approved. From what I understand it is only for citizens and non-citizens will have a different form of drivers licenses. I know that Nevada has the option of the two types of drivers license along with other states. A non citizen I think needs to have a passport of some type, not sure how that works, maybe from their home country.

          • Rodney

            I remember in 2015 the TSA was making a stink about a few states and accepting the State issued drivers licenses as government ID’s, but haven’t studied that scandal to know about it. I will bend to your more knowledgeable mind on that.

          • Hi Rodney a real shocker is that when I went through the original approved legislation that is the basis for the Home Land Security approved ID to fly across state lines was that it does not separate between flying and ground travel as I have read it. This however has not been implemented into present regulations that I have seen, but could be at any time. This has a horrible ring of the old agenda 21 idea where the US was separated in to regions where as a person would need an approval to travel between. Things get messier every year seems like.

          • Rodney

            Hi Walt. Yes, remember back to Bill Clinton and the word “Incrementalism”. It was under Billy boy that we first started hearing that term. And yes, it goes hand in hand with the UN approved Agenda 21. If this had been approved, the next step would have been telling us where we HAVE to live.

      • disqus_rEWjgfyzIp

        Just know that they tried to pass off the government issue ID as another form that was to add some one to national registry besides the items you mentioned. I am good with the Military Id, Drivers lic or state ID card if no drivers Lic. Any thing other is back to the gun grabbers agenda.

        • Rodney

          Yes, I hope and pray our lawmakers never fall for that “National ID” propaganda. They have too much of our private info now.

          • frank rizzo

            We have a national ID already, it’s called US Passport
            No need for a new id system.

          • Rodney

            The type of “National ID” that has been discussed is the equivalent of being “Chipped” like you would your pet dog. What they want is chips that have all you health info, personal info, career info and even be powerful enough to track us. I don’t need a passport, just my state issued drivers license or ID.

        • Butch

          Your carry permit is a photo government issued ID.

        • fisherman

          I understand your concern, I share it, but I think they just mean a standard ID.

    • Michael Spinelli

      So that everyone recognizes it, in addition to all drivers licenses throughout the country being valid government issued ID cards, so is the Ohio concealed carry ID which has, in addition to a photo, has all the information required to qualify as a valid government-issued ID card.

  • Rodney

    Makes sense to allow legal citizens to carry across state lines. Some communities may have laws against CC but as tourists are often targets by local criminals, it is wise to allow defense.

  • Mitchell Hardt

    If a driver’s license is sufficient enough to cross state lines, then a CC permit should suffice as well,

    • Susan

      And I think when it gets passed you should just need your c.c.Permit , ours here in pa has your picture on it also when it gets passed that the government should give you a sticker for your window so the cops know your legal. It should cause less conflict with the police they would know you had a weapon when they come up to your vechicle they know .c.c. Permit owners go by the law and they know it.

  • Alan404

    As a practical matter, the issuance of drivers licenses is essentially A TAX levied on the citizenry by their “elected things” and other forms of “public servants”. For those who would claim that the issuing of drivers licenses brings forth any degree of “public safety”, how come there are so large a number of vehicle accidents and deaths, more than are firearms related.

  • Trust No One

    A SMALL step in the right direction, but could lead to more honest citizens being behind bars. The problem is that there are soooo many irrational laws governing what is “legal” . For example, having anything but ball ammo in your firearm (and maybe even in your possession) could land you in prison in New Jersey. In other Libtard jurisdictions having a magazine CAPABLE of holding over 10 rounds will also land you in prison on fealony charges. I believe other Libtard jurisdictions will put you in stripes if you carry your firearm with a round in the chamber.
    Currently any half-way informed CC holder will check out the laws of the states he/she plans to travel thru, at which time they can also check on any number of asinine local rules. However overreliance on a Federal Reciprocity law may cause them to forego this research.

  • GRA

    We need national concealed carry. If nothing else it’s the American thing to do. Since so many TURDS from elsewhere are screwing with our elections we also need national voter ID too. Automobiles are far more dangerous than firearms and if all states can recognize the driver licenses of all states then the same should apply to everything else.

  • jlh68

    My Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit is only valid with a Photo ID (for me that is a Drivers License or my USN-Ret ID card) The bill proposed is not requiring a Federal ID, just a government ID as issued by any or all states. I expect even a City issued photo ID would work also.

  • drhjmaue

    This bill makes very good sense as we do not have 49 different drivers licenses and I know some will say they are two completely different situations. Well not really a vehicle can and has been used as a weapon and have been used to kill other human beings. As a matter of fact in 2017 over 40.000 people were killed by automobiles and a little over 12,000 were killed by firearms. I know in both categories one is way to many but the facts are the facts and innocent law abiding citizens who have had the necessary training and background check to obtain concealed weapons permit from one state should be able to carry weapon in any state. Our fundamental 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution that give all law abiding citizens the right to bear arms did not set forth in only certain states. I do not wish to get political but it is interesting to note that those in opposition to this bill are from democratic controlled states and cities and in some cases these states and cities have the most restrictive law laws yet correspondly have the highest gun related violence.

    • fisherman

      I’m from Mass. and you are absolutely correct. If driving is a privilege and your drivers license is good in all 50 states and bearing arms is a right, then carrying with a CCL from your state should be allowed in all 50 states. Unfortunately, common sense is not something that Washington swamp dwellers have a lot of experience with. So good luck to all of us.

  • Joseph Morgan

    JUST PASS THE DAMM RECIPROICTY LAW. STOP THE POLITICAL BULLSHIT!

    • Larry Shriver

      AMEN !!!

  • Albert Cowlan

    The problems are the progressive liberal states that will use their draconian laws state laws against is when when do carry. Like oh your gun isn’t registered here in this state of you can’t have that ammo because you need a card from the state. This law can be a trap unless we can prosecute politicians and cops with a crime.

  • Guns2A

    If any democraps approve of this bill, one might want to look it over with a fine tooth comb, it probably means there is all kinds of twisted hid laws in the bill !

  • xeriscapelady

    This is great..which means there better be a NUCLEAR so the IDIOT LYING COMMUNISTS DEMS can’t stop it.

  • xeriscapelady

    If you have a gun in your possession & you are going somewhere, why would you need a c.c. to have it in your car?

  • keith andrew bounds

    I support the proposal COMPLETELY!!!

  • fisherman

    Gee, I’m shocked, Maura “the douche bag” Healy is opposed. She hates citizens having guns except, of course, for the body guards and police officers that protect her because she is sooo much more important than the rest of us plebes.

  • David Atkins

    While all of this is good, there still remains a solid question? The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” So how come the states and others have selected to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment and its language. Stop the madness and support the Constitution of the United States, PERIOD!

  • C. W. Good

    Good for you sir, good for you. I, personally, don’t go into states that outlaw my 2nd Amendment rights, especially New Jersey and New York. I once had a NJ State Trooper stop me and my wife on the NJ turnpike and proceed to tear my car apart including removing the back seat out of my car throwing it on the ground. He also took everything out of my trunk and threw it on the ground. I asked him why he stopped me and what he was looking for. He told me that he had pulled me over because I had Virginia license plates on my car and Virginians often carried guns. I already knew about New Jersey and did not have any of my firearms with me, good thing that’s for sure. I haven’t been north of the Mason Dixon line since then. Hell I won’t even go to Maryland anymore. I do spend a lot of time in our house down in South Carolina. I like SC better than Virginia and hate it when we have to come back from SC for my wife to work as a Professor in a Virginia university. As Patrick Henry so eloquently said, ” Give me Liberty or give me death.”
    ssgtgood USMC

  • josiah young

    If you have a gun in your possession & you are going somewhere, why would you need a c.c. to have it in your car?

  • CBUJAN

    Newly Released Gov’t Study Shows Overwhelming Number of Shootings Are Defensive
    By Jack Davis
    April 22, 2018 at 2:23pm
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    When the Centers for Disease Control researched gun violence two decades ago, it found that firearms are used to protect citizens more than 2 million times per year, according to an expert criminologist.
    Gary Kleck of the Florida State University of Criminology and Criminal Justice recently reported on a CDC study conducted between 1996 and 1998, the results of which were never publicly released.
    “CDC’s findings indicated that an average of 2.46 million U.S. adults used a gun for self-defense in each of the years from 1996 through 1998,” Kleck wrote in a summary of his research into what the CDC uncovered, but did not share with the American people.
    “CDC never reported the results of those surveys, does not report on their website any estimates of DGU frequency, and does not even acknowledge that they ever asked about the topic in any of their surveys,” Kleck wrote in his paper, according to Reason.
    Given the fact that gun ownership is often under reported, the actual number may be higher, Kleck said.
    He noted that the CDC itself found “guns were used defensively by victims about 3.6 times as often as they were used offensively by criminals.”
    Kleck theorized that politics kept the results quiet.
    “(W)hy did CDC personnel decide not to report them?” Kleck wrote.
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    “One obvious explanation would be that they recognized that their own surveys’ finding of a high (defensive gun use) prevalence was unfriendly to gun control efforts — efforts repeatedly endorsed by CDC-financed researchers.”
    According to the criminologist, the facts should have been laid before the people.
    “Regardless of how the decision was made, it was a disservice to the American people, who paid for the survey and the information it yielded, but who were not allowed to see it and judge its worth for themselves,” he wrote.
    Kleck’s numbers are bigger than those coming from people who try to minimize the prevalence of defensive gun use.
    In a 2015 article for Politico, Kleck said those who downplay defensive gun use “hope that total gun prohibition will one day be politically achievable, and they recognize that high numbers of DGUs each year would present an enormous obstacle to persuading Americans that disarming noncriminals would be without serious costs.”
    RELATED: School Under Fire After Anti-Gun Walkout Leaves One Dead
    Although the CDC did not disseminate the findings of its late 1990s work, it did share the results of a 2013 study that concluded potential crime victims can avoid injury by being armed, according to CNS News.
    “Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies,” the CDC study said.
    That report also said that “defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

  • CBUJAN

    If The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act was passed by congress you would see a dramatic decrease in crime. This bill would allow any American to carry a gun no matter where they live or where every they may be going even to another state. Criminals that fully understands this will think twice before committing a crime. This would also put a end to gun free zones where the majority of crimes are committed.

  • CBUJAN

    Gun Crabbers

    People that have not been a victim of gun violence, or never owned or shot a gun have no idea of the true meaning of the Second Amendment, and when they listen to the lies of the democrats and the lying media, I can understand how they feel. But it is their responsibility to understand the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment or the NRA doesn’t kill people neither one promotes gun violence, neither one what’s criminals to have weapons. The Second Amendment and the NRA are in existence to protect law abiding citizens. We have over 20 thousand gun laws on the books and not one of those laws or any new law will stop mass shootings. The democrats always politicize any type of gun violence. Their true agenda is gun confiscation, they are the true villains. Now if they achieve gun confiscation how will they get the guns from criminals and gang baggers? They won’t criminals don’t obey laws so they would be the only ones with guns. So now how would you protect yourself , your family, your property and from a tyrannical government? I’m going to give one great example, that the democrats and the lying media lie about and that is the 1996 gun confiscation of Australia. They all said it worked but that is not true. I have a letter from a senator from Australia that said America don’t let your government take your guns. Our gun confiscation did not work, the criminals still had their guns and crime has gone up by 60%. Criminals started doing home invasions in broad daylight because the criminals know now that the people no longer had a way to protect themselves. So who is to blame for gun violence?

    “Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. “The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain’s heart. In the days of any mass shooting, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at the Second Amendment and the NRA by the democrats and the lying media. I must point out that the NRA is a organization that is made up of law abiding citizens to help preserve our Second Amendment rights. I’m here today to declare that mass shootings are not just a tragedy, they are a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies on our politicians, much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves and most to blame is our society today.

    I grew up with guns. But you know what? My parents never supported any bad behavior from me. I was terrified of doing something bad at school, as I would have not had a life until I corrected the problem and straightened my ass out. My parents invaded my life. They knew where I was all the time. They made me have a curfew. They made me wake them up when I got home. They made me respect their rules. They had full control of their house, and at any time could and would go through every inch of my bedroom, backpack, pockets, anything! Parents it’s time to step up! Be the parent that actually gives a crap! Be the annoying mom that pries and knows what your kid is doing. Stop being their friend. They have enough “friends” at school. Be their parent. Being the “cool mom” means not a damn thing when either your kid is dead or your kid kills other people because they were allowed to have their space and privacy in your home. I’ll say it again. My home was filled with guns growing up. For God’s sake, my dad was Marine who fought in three wars serving our country. But you know what? I never dreamed of shooting anyone with his guns. I never dreamed of taking one! I was taught respect for human life, compassion, rules, common decency, and most of all, I was taught that until I moved out, my life and bedroom wasn’t mine…it was theirs. And they were going to know what was happening because they loved me and wanted the best for me.

    Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation’s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as mass shootings occurs politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA, the Second Amendment, and Law abiding citizens that own guns. Remember gun control laws only affect law abiding citizens, criminals don/t obey laws. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws.

    Look to our inner cities like Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, Los Angeles, and many more all run by democrats for years. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country, yet they are the murder capital of America. Look at the overall education system today students are turning to socialism, and communism because of the brain washing of our teachers and professors.

    There is a city in the state of Georgia call Kennesaw that has a law that every law abiding citizen must own a gun. This law has been in effect for fifteen years and in all that time they have had only one murder and other crimes are almost nonexistent. Gun free zones have more crime than others, that’s a fact regardless what the democrats or the lying media says.

    So in closing I hope non gun owners will do the research and learn about the true history of the NRA and our Second Amendment these two things protect all our other rights as Americans.

  • Firewagon

    Can I state vociferously how “disgusted” I am with ALL, local, state, federal, enlightened, esteemed, elected legislators! My state is bordered on FIVE other states. I have been in them all, while driving or living; I have yet to bury my weapon, or, lock it up when crossing ANY border! I DO NOT carry binders full of state’s gun laws in order to know when I’m NOT in compliance – how would I recall ALL of them anyway, with my short term memory lapses(?). These worthless “RESTRICTIONS” confound ONLY the law abiding, and add $$$ in unconstitutional fees to the states and feds. That SCOTUS decree, or finding, that “The People Have The Right to Keep Arms in The Home,” is yet another usurpation/defining/weakening of that unambiguous “Right of The People to Keep and Bear Arms,” as succinctly stated by those “educated” Founders! A right, by the way, NOT designating “what Arms,” or “WHERE” they could be kept. I will never voice the same lament as that of my hero, Dr. Susanna Hupp in her testimony before congress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTO-y-B2YM – – – My personal credo, based lightly on her results, is that “I will obey no “man-made” law that would deprive me of my “God Given Right” to self-defense, or myself or others, by ANY appropriate means, ANYWHERE” – that dastardly 2nd Amendment is appreciated, but NOT required! Call it what you like, criminal, law breaker, lawless, I call it self-preservation. When just one of these “save us from ourselves law makers” shows up to SAVE me during some threat against my life, or those of mine, I may consider NOT being a “scoff law!” Want to have me not be a scoff law, DON’T make arcane, asinine, impossible to follow laws that tend to turn the LAW ABIDING into possible Felons….Think to “feel more secure” in my having some license for a CCW(?), FINE, just don’t CHARGE me for it!

  • Dustin Thomas

    If The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act was passed by congress you would see a dramatic decrease in crime. This bill would allow any American to carry a gun no matter where they live or where every they may be going even to another state. Criminals that fully understands this will think twice before committing a crime

  • caesar nieves

    Why does the government need photo ids for law abiding Americans yet the illegals don’t have to show an Id to vote or drive a vehicle this is insane another gun grab till we have tyranny and a dictatorship

  • caesar nieves

    Another law on top of hundreds of gun laws when have you heard a politician telling there armed security to give up there guns?