Police Find 553 Guns In Felon’s Home

A tipster told the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department that 60-year-old man with a felony record may have a large firearm collection. The tip turned out to be true.

The LASD on Tuesday announced they had, in conjunction with federal and state authorities, seized 553 firearms in the unincorporated Agua Dulce area of Los Angeles County last week.

On June 14, investigators served a search warrant on Manuel Fernandez’s residence on Caprock Road that resulted in 432 impounded firearms. Fernandez, who had a felony record which made him prohibited from possessing guns or ammunition, was subsequently arrested and charged with a number of weapons violations.

A follow-up warrant on the home of “a female associate” of Fernandez on the same day produced 30 more firearms while a third on the suspect’s home delivered on June 15 yielded an additional 91 firearms found “hidden within the home.”

Photos released from the seizure by the agency show an extensive collection of military surplus bolt-action rifles including British Lee-Enfields, Springfield M1903s, Swiss K.31s, and various Mauser patterns. Sporting rifles and shotguns such as are seen, such as Remington 870s, Winchester cowboy guns, and a Browning BARs. About 25 AR-pattern upper receivers were included in the haul.

In one photo, a number of vintage rifles are shown piled in the back of a Ford pickup truck.

Sheriff Jim McDonnell said the seizure validated the county’s “See Something, Say Something” campaign that directs anonymous tipsters to LA Crime Stoppers via a toll-free phone number and website.

“This case is a testament to the community’s involvement in reducing crime and taking guns out of the hands of criminals,” said McDonnell, a former Long Beach chief of police who won election to lead the 17,000-deputy department in 2014.

Under California law, guns seized or collected by law enforcement that cannot be returned to their owners can be sold to the public or destroyed.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office regularly holds an annual meltdown of confiscated guns rather than auctioning or reselling the firearms they collect. Last year, McDonnell oversaw the destruction of almost 5,000 guns to include 3,520 pistols and revolvers as well as 1,451 rifles and shotguns. The guns were melted at a Rancho Cucamonga steel mill and, mixed with other metals, recycled into rebar.

source: guns.com

  • Alan404

    Is this “annual melt down” held before or after confiscated arms are picked over by a selected few? Yes, one might assume that I’m suspicious of officialdom, especially in California, though other jurisdictions and the antics of “the authorities therein” might well be closely examined too.

  • cosmo007

    Scrap? What a waste. Well, it’s Kalifornia….

  • Rodney

    Before they do a Meltdown, they need to have an assessment of value done. Some of those weapons may have a greater value then that of scrap. Sell those more valuable weapons and fund the community. That seems like a win/win to me. I’m sure the sheriff’s office would face little problem shipping them to Nevada or Idaho where collectors could get something good and the state could get some of the money they are always in need of. California, though. I won’t hold my breath for any logical thinking.

    • Skyhawk

      But for the time being, they stole them from their owner.

      • Rodney

        I wasn’t making a judgement on the fellows legal situation. The left always screams about restoring rights once the sentence has been served. Yet, they rarely want to practice what they preach.

        • Terry Butts

          Remember when they spout that they mean only for the left and its supporters everyone else’s rights they want revoked especially speech, religion, and their second amendment rights when they conflict with the lefts political agenda.

          Thing is in the days of the founders and up until recently when they started letting violent repeat offenders out of prison all rights were restored to a person at the end of their sentence they would even give the former convicts back their property including any gun they owned.

          It was not until they started this REFORM the criminal instead of punishing them system along with the prosecutes who are more interested in cutting a deal to avoid going to court and proving guilt that we had these issues start.

          • Rodney

            You’re preaching to the choir on that one, my friend. If we don’t start seeing some civility soon, we will be seeing violence like we haven’t seen since the civil war.

    • Bud William

      Rodney, just one of those rifles could be worth more than what the Sheriff will recover from a meltdown,
      Price of steel is not like it is gold or silver.

      • Rodney

        Last time I knew, scrap was paying $50 a ton.

        • Bud William

          Meltdown =equals= Stupid

          • Rodney

            C-a-l-i-f-o-r-n-i-a = STUPID!

    • Terry Butts

      The fact is they will not do any such thing they have even melted down irreplaceable historic guns simply because the criminal who stole them was in violation of “gun laws”.

      To these liberal politicians the value, history or even ability to function is irrelevant to them it is just an “ugly gun” that will jump up on its own and attack people so it must be destroyed.

      They even blatantly violate not just the second amendment in this but the one that requires just compensation for any property taken by the government. Declaring it illegal to for one or a group to own after it was legal for them to can not be retroactively applied therefore they are taking legal property without compensation to the owners.

      Of course this in California where they prosecuted a man for buying a gun 30 years before California made a law making that sale illegal.

      In simple terms he broke the law 30 years before the law even existed. just another violation of the Constitution California committed the retroactive enforcement of a law banning the sale of a gun.

  • Patrick Feeney

    The Constitution trashing freedom haters will now try to punish decent, honest citizens for the actions of this criminal!

    • James Brooks

      Being a felon don’t mean he is a bad person he could be a better person than most anyone in church,he has a love for guns and he was a collector he didn’t think was was hurting anyone which he wasn’t,that law which prohibits a felon from having a gun is totally against the constitution,we all have a right to own a gun and this is a fake law put by the fuxing Brady jerk that some people voted for,I know dozens of felons who have guns who are not a threat to anyone,maybe some day when gun haters lose their power we can all own a gun again.Guns don’t kill or hurt anyone,what they should do is do away with the Brady law and make a law that if you use a gun in a crime you will be given a death sentence and carried out by hanging and the gun crime will be over with.

      • Terry Butts

        “and make a law that if you use a gun in a crime you will be given a death sentence”

        You would have to be very specific that they gun was actually used to commit a violent crime as existing sentencing laws about if they use a gun in a crime have been abused to make felons out of people for any minor infraction while legally carrying their gun because the anti gun politicians and prosecutors use the excuse that simply possessing the gun during a crime even if it never leaves its holster means that it was used in the crime.

        To them that includes anything from speeding to even jaywalking.

        Since the story does not even mention what his felony was he could have simply miscalculated his bank account that one prosecutor a few years back called it some form of fraud and the judge gave the man a 20 year sentence. Yet in another case the same day he only gave a man charged with murder a 5 year sentence.

        • James Brooks

          A whole lot of the judges should be hanged.

        • Proudvietvet58

          There are exceptions to your train of thought. Take a man (local to my home town) who used a side arm to repel an ARMED rapist who was attacking his wife. Since the crime took place outside of his home, he was found guilty of “Attempted” manslaughter which is dam’ned ridiculous! I would have done the same thing to save my own Wife or any other woman being attacked.

          His case is still under appeal 4 years later!

          By your ‘suggested’ standards, this man protecting his own wife should be given a “Death Sentence” ?????

          • Terry Butts

            Your response seems better aimed at the one I replied to and is one of the reasons that I stated that any such law would need to be carefully worded to ensure innocent people falsely convicted by abusing such anti gun restrictions not get that kind of sentence.

            For one thing in any case where they say no charges would have been filed if not for the fact the person used a gun instead of a knife or bat to defend themselves they are confessing to punishing someone for nothing more than being forced to exercise their right to self defense they just used a tool that’s ownership while constitutionally protected is not “Politically Correct”.

            I recall reading of an incident a few years back in NY. A man was home with his family when home invaders armed with guns broke in he disarmed the first one and used that gun to stop the other armed attackers saving his and his families lives but because under NY law he was not allowed to legally own or possess a gun he was illegally charged and convicted of a crime for “assaulting” or killing the attackers.

            They even said had he (somehow crossed the room without being killed) used a baseball bat they would not have filed any charges at all proving it was open and shut self defense that they had no constitutional grounds to charge him for it.

            They also ignored the fact that the CRIMINAL was the one who possessed the gun he simply used it to protect himself after taking it from the first attacker In their heads he was supposed to just toss it aside and try to rush the other attackers like we see in fictional movies/TV shows.

            They expect Hollywood fiction to apply that people can somehow magically dodge the bullets from a bad guys gun and use hand to hand combat to stop an armed attacker that can be as much as 80+ feet away in some instances.

          • Proudvietvet58

            Mr. Butts, you just proved my point exactly, more gun laws accomplish NOTHING! In fact, they cause more harm than good to Law Abiding” men and women Good Lord, we have more gun laws than you can begin to imagine State by State that HINDER law abiding people from protecting themselves and their loved ones from harms way.

            It warmed my heart to see the 9th. Circuit of Appeals recently FULLY SUPPORT Open Carry, Nation Wide!

          • Terry Butts

            Those laws do not accomplish what the propaganda promoting them claims they do however accomplish what the tyrants promoting them want and that is disarming the populace so they can provide no armed resistance when they decide to abolish the constitution and impose the PC agenda of censorship, no religion, and only government permitted rights they can void at their discretion.

            As I said your reply sounded to me more like a reply to the one who Stated

            “should do is do away with the Brady law and make a law that if you use a gun in a crime you will be given a death sentence and carried out by hanging and the gun crime will be over with.”

            I simply pointed out how that would be abused just as the existing ones have been.

  • JoAnn Graham

    The guns criminals have are from the black market..No criminal buys a gun or registers it ever..Millions of guns on the streets

    • Skyhawk

      Long guns don’t have to be registered, do they?

  • Bud William

    We are talking about “Commiefornia”, they don’t know right from wrong. Sounds like the guy was collecting valuable guns. That means nothing to the knot heads in “CF”, they will destroy anything of value so that they can continue to raise taxes.

  • Joseph Stone

    Its no fun trying to have a conversation with an idiot. That being said lets proceed. The 2nd admendment to the Constitution CLEARLY states (in part); The Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall NOT be INFRINGED… RIGHT is not a privilege, cannot be bartered or sold. It was given by GOD not MAN and INFRINGED means to VIOLATE, TRANSGRESS, BREACH, and my favorite as it applies to ALL government officials, DISREGARD… The fact that the founders were adiment about the government making NO LAWS that disregards the rights of the citizens, seems to oblivious to OUR officials. Remember the 2nd admendment makes all other rights possible so when a felon has no recourse to retrieve what is rightfully theirs they cease to be a citizen. Regardless of our personal beliefs when a citizen is done giving the system it’s pound of flesh ALL of their RIGHTS should be IMMEDIATELY restored.. No if ands or butts.. Oh I guess it’s ok for the felon to return back to society but not as one who has any rights.. Believe me when I say that this is not what our founders meant when they drafted the BILL of RIGHTS and the CONSTITUTION.. WAKE UP PEOPLE….

    • Proudvietvet58

      @Joseph Stone, Thank you Sir for the most intelligent comment on this string! You are 100% correct!

      • Huck Finn

        Specifically a person “convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year” cannot possess any firearm in any location. 18 U.S.C. 922(g) is the federal law ,unless the State where the person resides makes an exception in and for a particular person. In other words the State can overrule federal law in some instances.

  • 83ragtop50

    Is Mr. Hernandez an illegal alien?

  • Terry Butts

    What crimes did the man commit while possessing these guns that taking them stopped?

    What crimes did some woman that was just associated with him commit that gave them the right to search her home as just associating with someone who had a felony conviction in their past is not a valid claim on a warrant application.

    When was a gun model named COWBOY GUN made or was that a reference to them being ANTIQUE weapons that actual cowboys used in the old west?

    How many of these COLLECTABLES were ever used in the commission of any crime outside of ATF REGULATIONS about who can and can not own or possess them?

    Was any of the guns STOLEN thus REQUIRED by the US constitution to be returned to the rightful owners NOT MELTED DOWN or destroyed?

    It seems to me that some anti gun nutcase simply saw he had a gun collection and with no care about if any crimes were being planned or committed or if they were even functional outside of being decorative was like a good Nazi and reported the NON PC behavior of the man to the AUTHORITIES.

    Was his felony even for a violent offense since so many states UPPED minor crimes to be felonies as soon as it became “legal” for them to deny gun ownership based on ANY felony conviction not just violent crimes. In fact in one state JAYWALKING is now a felony because of the anti gun politicians in that state.

    “The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office regularly holds an annual meltdown of confiscated guns rather than auctioning or reselling the firearms they collect.”

    Are they going to compensate any LEGAL gun owners who’s weapons were stolen for destroying them rather than returning them? Especially if like in one case a few years ago where it was an antique worth well over $100,000 yet they DESTROYED it because THE CRIMINAL WHO STOLE IT was not legally allowed to posses it.

    • lostproton

      What about the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) listed that requires a Federal Class III permit to possess. Unless the BATFE was there and took it; where did it go?

      • Terry Butts

        That depends was it the full auto version?

        There were some models that were not full auto and others that were in fact converted to semi auto for collectors that could not get the required full auto permit.

        This story is lacking a vast amount of information especially about the actual weapons and where they ended up after the police took them.

        • Proudvietvet58

          Mr. Butts, your 2nd sentence makes no sense. None of the “BAR” Browning’s were EVER full auto and, it is impossible to convert an already semi-auto ‘rifle’ into a semi-automatic ‘rifle’! They are ALREADY semi-auto Sir.

      • Juanito Ibañez

        Browning named their modern semi-automatic hunting rifle “BAR,” so it doesn’t automatically refer to the M-1918 Browning Automatic Rifle.

      • Proudvietvet58

        Sir, you are in error. A Browning BAR is NOT a fully automatic rifle. Browning coined that BAR Acronym MANY years ago when their Semi-Automatic rifles hit the market. Prior to that point in history, ALL long guns were either bolt action or, muzzle loaders.

        Do a little research and you will find my statement is absolutely true.

        • Bill

          couldn’t really spot a BAR but I did find some BLR’s in the photo and that might be the media’s way of a bad story …. AGAIN. Once more a “neighbor ” being able to jam their nose into someone’s life.

  • greg

    I certainly hope they auction most are old and collectible war firearms, it be a waste for some of those war firearms.

  • Rick Alenn

    Really what was his felonies. There are many things that the rouge government levels misdemeanor and felony charges against people all the time that are NOT crimes at all. UN-just and UN-Constitutional Statute laws. While those same totalitarian thugs commit real crimes and get away with it.

  • Juanito Ibañez

    “About 25 AR-pattern upper receivers were included in the haul.”

    Seizing them is a big screw-up on the part of LASD, as they are not “firearms” and, therefore, are not prohibited from his ownership and/or possession; therefore his 4th Amendment rights were violated with that single seizure.

  • marcus J

    Get Guns out of the hands of criminals , In other States and many other Counties on many occasions various Judges have ruled that according to The Constitution and our Bill of Rights a prior Felony Conviction does not necessarily bar You from your Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms , In some States old laws are still on the books that state upon release from prison after paying your debt to society You are entitled to certain items in order to survive , One of them being a Holster and Sidearm , This 60 year old Man may have had a Felony Conviction many years ago , But a good lawyer and the right Judge may be able to charge and convict the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department with Grand Theft among other charges , But in the Corrupt , Bankrupt Socialist Banana Republic of Commiefornia finding the right Judge and a decent lawyer may be impossible

  • Let firearms held by felons and non felon citizens be confiscated and melted down, in this gun-happy nation. Then the owners will be forced to think and argue with their brains instead of their weapons.

    • Proudvietvet58

      Well, Well, Well, what other type of comment could be expected from an “Actor, Director, Producer”.

      Try showing us first hand haw to argue with a criminal holding a gun to your head right after you recognize him/her in the commission of a felony crime that could cost him/her their life in prison.

      The old saying “There is nothing worse than an Old Fool” that you have surpassed Sir.

      I am through with you, NEXT!

      • You have proved my point! Thanks.

        • Proudvietvet58

          The only thing you have “proved’ is your stupidity Mr. Actor. I have been a victim and will NEVER have that happen to me and my Wife again! I will be damned if you nor anyone else will EVER strip ME of my rights to keep and bear arms OPENLY!

          Got it???

        • Proudvietvet58

          Finally, I discovered the TRUE Johnclark1 !!! A scum bucket and hater of
          America! I knew you had some form of vice that made you DISGUSTING! How
          does it feel to be so ugly as to have to revert to Massage Parlors for
          female gratification? It must REALLY SUCK to be YOU! LMAO!!!!

          PLEASE keep posting so I can expose your nasty azz to ALL of the good people on DISQUS!!

          How bout them apples Mr. Actor!?!?

          Be careful who you cross or anger with your ugliness on-line Mr. Degenerate!

          • I see how you like to acheive your orgasms. By bullying your betters.

  • GRAMPA

    what is missing from the story? what was he convicted for? how long did he have this Collection? I saw no mention of ammo !!! Was this the guns of the typical gun collector? last time I checked we as humans are restricted by our physical build to using one or two at the same time. who was it that turned him in? was their some reward involved? This is why we must regain control of government. each law that stamps felon upon our head removes our rights. it is always presented as common sense laws to protect us from having guns fall into the hands of the “bad guy” I challenge all to find just what a felon is and what laws must be broken to gain such a tag. do all warrant the removal of a mans right to self defense for himself and family? lets ask was this a man who had thoughts of starting a war with these guns or was he a gun collector just as am I. time we ask questions. government wants to have their job made easy. they want shortcuts to law enforcement. but is it justice?
    Grampa

  • ElenaM

    You’re preaching to the choir on that one, my friend. If we don’t start seeing some civility soon, we will be seeing violence like we haven’t seen since the civil war.

  • leonie lemaire

    Get Guns out of the hands of criminals , In other States and many other Counties on many occasions various Judges have ruled that according to The Constitution and our Bill of Rights a prior Felony Conviction does not necessarily bar You from your Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms , In some States old laws are still on the books that state upon release from prison after paying your debt to society You are entitled to certain items in order to survive , One of them being a Holster and Sidearm , This 60 year old Man may have had a Felony Conviction many years ago , But a good lawyer and the right Judge may be able to charge and convict the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department with Grand Theft among other charges , But in the Corrupt , Bankrupt Socialist Banana Republic of Commiefornia finding the right Judge and a decent lawyer may be impossible

  • Tom

    Didn’t mention if he was a older “valedictorian DACA” recipient? Funny how that just slipped their minds! Also vintage guns means stolen so the people that can prove that they where stolen in a burglary have no rights !? Typical for liberal democrats always more rights for everyone but the citizens!?

  • Huck Finn

    I am hugely in favor of the 2nd Amendment rights and I am really against all this garbage being perpetrated by the left. Having said that, I am glad people are vigilant enough to recognize when a person has been convicted as a felon and is not supposed to own guns. Yes, and rightly so these weapons needed to be confiscated, if indeed this guy was a felon. If the guns in the girlfriends home belonged to him, then they too should have been confiscated. If she was the owner of the weapons and not a felon, then, that is another matter that needs addressing. My question would be, how did he acquire all of these guns in the first place. Were they sold to him by a licensed gun dealer or did he acquire them by straw buys etc.? Was he illegally selling these guns, would be another question.