31 Democrats Introduce New Gun Law to Seriously Curb Ammo Sales

This is America, land of the free, home of the brave, filled to the brim with Second Amendment Supporters. Those not so enthralled with our Constitutional right to bear arms have been trying for years to destroy this right. They’ve found getting our guns isn’t an easy task by any means.

Now, they think they’ll try to hit us in yet another direction: our ammunition.

Thirty-one House Democrats have proposed legislation that would prevent people from buying ammunition online, and would instead require all purchases to be made in person — a change they admit is aimed at preventing people from buying “unlimited” ammunition over the Internet

The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act, from freshman Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.), would also require all ammo dealers to be licensed by the government, and require bulk ammo purchases to be reported to the government.

It wasn’t long ago this year that the ATF ran into trouble in their attempt to regulate M855 ammunition, known as “green tip” 5.56 or .223 caliber rounds, stating that it was armor piercing. Roughly 90,000 comments later and the ATF did back off on this stance, but that hasn’t slowed the leftists from trying to reinvent the wheel with ammunition bans and restrictions.

My question for those screaming the loudest about gun violence? Why don’t you take some personal responsibility and teach the value of human life, instead of banning an inanimate object that left untouched causes no harm?

  • billie

    “Shall not be infringed”

  • xandersaml

    How about finding a real problem to solve? Here’s one QUIT SPENDING SO DAMN MUCH!!!

    • Combatvet52

      That’s a DAMN good start…….then we need a clean out detail.

      • xandersaml

        Yessir! It would be easy to make a long list 🙂 Getting someone to do it is the hard part.

        • Combatvet52

          Well we have lawmakers who are afraid of Barry and losing their cushy do nothing jobs, we have to all stand together we have our Constitutional Rights.

    • Bloodaxe

      You, Sir are a Radical Thinker and a very dangerous dude. NSA is watching you.

      • peanut9244

        Why because he believes in the Second Amendment and all it stands for?
        Unlike the dumbass Liberals that feel EVERYONE needs to be without something THEY don’t like, he believes that every man, woman and child old enough to know how a weapon functions and it is to be used for protection and not KILLINGS.

        • Bloodaxe

          I thpought the sarcasm in my comment was obvious.
          Silly me.

          • peanut9244

            I do make my apologies for me being so cold.
            Arguing with some of these people that have not the brains of a jackass that still believe that Mooshell is a guy named something is just to much….I can take a joke and sarcasm with the best of them but that day I had been arguing with everyone over something stupid about the Obama’s.
            Again, sir, I do make my apologies.
            After reading it the SECOND time I can see the sarcasm and frankly I think it is a cute bit of sarcasm…..THIS TIME IT MADE ME SMILE AND CHUCKLE.

          • Bloodaxe

            Wunderbar!
            No harm done.

          • peanut9244

            (wiping sweat from my brow) PHEW!!!!! thank you.
            BUT I do have a question I just wonder WHO these 31 morons are so that I can give them MY two cents worth.
            Again Thanks for the reprieve.

      • Daniel Wright

        Looks like we are all in the same boat,with the exception of rx7pj.

  • Combatvet52

    The Dirty 31 Demorats belong in prison because they are the ones breaking all laws, things have to get better when this unconstitutional administration are all out of office.

    • KALTON

      I Hope things get better.

      • Combatvet52

        I Seriously pray every day for this to become reality,this king of the hill is destroying this country…..and to boot his Moochella says she’s having a hard time as the first black lady……so lets all chip in some peanuts.

        • game50

          Combatvet52: The reason Michelle is haven a hard time being a 1st lady. Is because she a Guy…real name is Michael LaVaugh Robinson…s/he is a Transgender. I better watch myself…after all Joan River said the same thing,and we know what happen to her..don’t we ( she dead).

          • Combatvet52

            I hear you loud and clear she’s a she – he and an evil person.

          • game50

            Combatvet52: Finally someone who knows the truth.

          • peanut9244

            YOU are one wacked out fantasy loving jackass.
            Time for you to wake up and enter into a REAL world…leave that weed and crack alone and live in a real world.

          • Oingo Boingo

            You, peanut brain, have apparently missed the photo proof that Moochie Da Man packs a johnson.
            The torso, lack of ANY evidence of pregnancy, da chirrens do not look like each other OR either of their alleged spawners AND there are two pix of Soetoro showing chin up defensive faggotry; one with his Paki boifren on a sofa, the other with the same exact “poofter caught for what he is” look on his vile commie cokehead face…with the spectacularly ugly Moochie at their unclean “wedding”, again, seated on a sofa, wif her haid in his gay lap.

          • the kev

            Moooooooooshelllllllll

          • coolman11

            Hell anythings possible these days i wouldn’t doubt it

          • Combatvet52

            (leave that weed and crack alone and live in a real world.) I guess your talking about the WH how in the world can you be so naive……your the one that has to WAKE UP

          • peanut9244

            I have no clue what you are talking about unless you’re talking about the stupid remark game50 made about FLOTUS indicating that she was at one time a he…someone better do a little more research on things before OPENING THEIR PIE HOLE AND STICKING THEIR FOOT IN IT.

          • Combatvet52

            Takes one to know one………like the man says check it out on the internet Michael LaVaugh Robinson
            I think you should wake up to reality.

          • peanut9244

            OK now that I have viewed all 268 photos of Michele I can see where you think she is a he.
            Lets put it this way. I could take a photo of you and with this new PHOTOSHOP that I paid $255 for and make you look like a female even to the point where you have the biggest Johnson in the world one that would make Holmes look like a Vienna Sausage.
            Maybe you should start concentrating more on helping solve this problem we are having then to concentrate on the GENDER OF THE FIRST LADY.
            Personally I really don’t give a shi* I am more worried at the damage Hitlery Clintoon can cause should she/he be elected….We are sure that Hitlery Clinton IS a she and not a he?
            Oh, wait there is no dick hanging from her dress and the boobs are smaller…actually the boobs are both the same isn’t it wonderful what hormones can do?

          • Combatvet52

            Hitllary belongs in prison…….and you say focus on the problem the problem is the the empty chair and all
            his whole cabinet and all the freaking do nothing lawmakers………end of story
            and she is a he no doubt in my mind, think about it why did he refer to Mooch as MICHAEL more than once.

          • peanut9244

            tsk,tsk,tsk, I feel so sorry for people that even though they are adults still believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause and other moderate fairy tales.
            You really need to get another hobby other then trying to do this one.
            Oh, and for the record I am one of those persons that before my retirement enforced the laws the law makers made…especially for those that have sever mental illness’s to get a lighter sentence in the proper facility that could handle their problems.

          • Combatvet52

            Don’t feel sorry for me, I’ve always done things on my own never looked for a handout 8 years Military and 10 years deputy Sheriff…….46 years General Manager architectural woodworking Company.
            I go to sleep very well at night knowing that i never put the screws to anyone.

          • peanut9244

            Your credentials seem to be impeccable, I also worked on the side of the law as a paralegal researcher before that was a supervisor of the 2nd largest electronic company, at that time, in the world and traveled the world for that company, before that I was in college getting my Masters in Engineering, which I could never find a job in seeing I was either OVER qualified or UNDER qualified and before that as a First Lieutenant attached to a Med-Vac company in Nam.
            I also sleep well at night even after having a quid bypass 3 times in one year.
            But your credentials and my credentials have nothing to do with the face that you cannot tell a trans gender from the real thing….I have been trying very hard NOT to bring this up but My sister, was born Paul Michael, in 1980 went to London England after getting a divorce and having two children and is now known as Melissia Paulette. I have had to live with seeing her/him like that a hell of a lot longer then you have had to look at Michele Obama. The thing that you keep seeing is a thing that has been traveling the internet for the last 7 years and I am sorry but you are NOT the first to believe this…but I guarantee you if you make a list and research this issue and put down the pro’s and con’s I am sure one will outweigh the other

          • Combatvet52

            I have to salute you Lieutenant with the struggle you did well, i never really had the chance to go to collage but my drive set me on the good road……BTW I was a Sargent in a mortar company it’s hell on the front line Korea 52/53

          • game50

            peanut9244: Do yourself a favor and just check out the name and you’ll see what I’m talking about…now close your mouth.

          • Daniel Wright

            From what I read you are both misinterpreting the others words. I believe you are both on the same side and don’t realize it.

          • Daniel Wright

            I see no relevance to her in this conversation.

          • game50

            Daniel: I’m just letting you know that Michelle is really Michael LaVaugh Robinson..she a He.

        • Daniel Wright

          She snivels about an imaginary hard life as a black. She was born privileged.. Both she and hubby went to exclusive private schools and never once wanted for anything. Everything they say and do has the pursuit of power behind it. Hillary is no different She is crooked through and through.

          • Combatvet52

            I am in 100% agreement they all belong behind bars.

      • Bloodaxe

        So do I. If the Hildebeast gets elected we’re in big trouble. She is evil.

        • the kev

          Or you can call her granny hill. Dumb as a slug and blind as a mole.

      • Proud US vet/American

        THE ONLY WAY THINGS WILL GET BETTER AND CHANGE IS BY THE WILL OF “WE THE PEOPLE”.
        The people are going to have to start fighting back-NOW! Or, this country is lost, and “WE THE PEOPLE” will become “WE THE ENSLAVED”

        • KALTON

          I agree. WE THE PEOPLE need to take a Stand.

          • Daniel Wright
          • Proud US vet/American

            Seen that site many times-but thanks! All true American Patriots need to wake up to this, NOW!

          • Daniel Wright

            Good idea or bad idea? I’m not sure where you stand.

          • Proud US vet/American

            Personally, I think it may be the ONLY idea that can save America as we now know it. This may be too strong a comment for many to understand, but, the people have to do something NOW, or they will cease to be free Americans sooner, rather than later.

          • Daniel Wright

            I agree. I ask you to join me in posting links to the site at every opportunity to help spread the word. The article five convention can be used as a way to strengthen the constitution by filling all the loopholes the leftists use to circumvent it. Thanks for your service and may God save and bless America.

          • Proud US vet/American

            Mr. Wright-
            Check out this site, and see if it something that may interest you. I am a County coordinator for this National group. We are currently proving security details in Galice, Or., to help some miners save their mine from being taken over by the BLM. 4th and 5th amendment rights are being violated and this is why we were called in by the owners to help secure their mine and keep BLM out. Keep up the fight and NEVER give in to Socialism.

          • Drawer22

            @Proud US vet/American – To what site do you refer, having not posted one. I’m in the northern part of the State of Washington and have an Oregon non-resident CHL, as well as other tools of trade. Is help needed in Oregon to keep the BLM in line? Gimme something to work with here, as this is the first I’ve heard of it.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • KALTON

            Thank you, for the Information.

        • Bloodaxe

          We’re sliding down that slippery slope.

        • Daniel Wright

          Here you go…………http://www.conventionofstates.com/

    • Combatvet52,
      I am amazed that grown adults cannot read the Second Amendment. This proposal is strictly in violation of that amendment. It is absolutely Unconstitutional.

      • Combatvet52

        Jerry, just hope that the two beasts don’t get elected to finish destroying this country.

        • Combatvet52,
          Speaking out on these posts is as important as anything except our vote. We have to urge out elected officials and the public on what the libs are up to doing.

          • Combatvet52

            I think I have written to every lawmaker we have very few answer.

          • Combatvet 52,
            Never give up. I don’t. e have to convince the GOP to make a stand and create some meaningful resolve to immigration, if nothing else than enforcement of the current laws.

          • Combatvet52

            Jerry i won’t give up (never) I still write to all the BIMBOS I have a file full of them.

          • Combatvet 52,
            I also write letters to the editors of newspapers. I get some liberal feedback and it only eposes themselves for what they are.

          • Combatvet52

            The last letter i wrote to the LIBERAL media was back in 1992 i don’t trust them at all, when you see a video clip on the stations like ABC CBS CNN and so on, the same clip on Fox shows a whole different story with no cuts in the video, when you see a slight flicker in a video it means it’s been edited, i know because i have relatives in the business.

          • Combatvet52,
            Most news sources here are conservative. The leading paper is, of course, liberal. But they publish whatever people wish to post. So I do and I get liberal feedback. But I get 10 positive article back for every liberal one. Then again, this is the reddest state in the Union. It is just to the right of Attila the Hun. So I am not moving but even I am not that far to the right.

          • Robert F

            I also write to my representatives. I do get replies, but they reply is never what I have written to them about. I am convinced that when they get my question, a low level clerk looks at it and decides to send either prepared letter #103 or #115. I am disgusted!

          • Combatvet52

            I know what you mean I wrote to Obama asking him to answer 4 questions, in reply I get a 2 page email with all kinds of gibberish whit no questions answered and to boot asks would you please make a donation……….yeah right.

          • Robert F

            Sickening isn’t it. They represent us? Semper Fi

          • Combatvet52

            The couldn’t represent a sewer full of RATS.

          • usncb

            Combat vets. represent combat vets. We are the OATH KEEPERS. I think that there going to be a lot of WE THE PEOPLE counting on us………..

          • Patriot068

            Shit yeah! I’m one

          • Combatvet52

            Absolutely……Thank you for your service.
            Wounded warriors still care for the greatest country in the world.

          • Greg Day

            There WILL be a lot of We The People counting on you!
            You have the training, experience and knowledge-I will proudly stand with you!

          • peanut9244

            If you as them to tell you the last 4 letters of the word Republican they look at you as if you are nutz. Ask them to give you the last 4 letters of the word Democrats they get all bent out of shape and cuss you out …. than you say that is why I am a RepublICAN because DemocRATS cannot get things that need to be done … done…
            They get all upset me and either ignore me or block me.

          • Combatvet52

            Demorats come from the sewer.

          • peanut9244

            Shhhhhhhhh! don’t let them know they will find a way to blame you for being there.

      • Bloodaxe

        They hate the Constitution, even though they swore to uphold and defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic, when they took office.
        They are in fact domestic enemies of that document, which is the basis of the greatest nation that ever was- or will ever be.

        • Bloodaxe,
          Libs are of the mindset that government is the solution to every problem in the country. Of course it is not working very well in major urban areas. They seen to forget that if you make people content with welfare and doing nothing for themselves. Unfortunately this has never worked. Ask the Romans. Even ask the Israelites when they got a frèe dole from God. But then after nearly 40 years they arrived at the Jordan River and had to fend for themselves.

      • Kevin

        These leftists probably have read the Second Amendment. The problem is that they don’t care. In their communist minds, “The Ends justify the Means,” and my favorite (from Stalin, I believe), was “If you want to make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs.” Of course, the “eggs” are “people.”

        • Kevin,
          Actually that is correct. They know full well what the Second Amendment says. But it is not to their liking. Eliminate all guns and disarm the people. Hello, Hitler.

          • Patriot068

            Don’t forget the 1st amendment is under attack now as well!!
            Seems to me that disarming people, stifling free speech was done in the past by Hitler!! I can’t wait for the round ups, knocks at your door atv2 am rounding people up that won’t follow thevZ( laws) imposed by the Dick_- tater & his minions!! Screw them!!! I’ll hide my stuff & still run my mouth against this corrupt govt!

          • Daniel Wright

            You’re half right. They are only want to silence conservative opposition to them. Lefties still have complete freedom of speech.

        • the kev

          Dnc (does not care)

        • Keith Hatch

          Exactly Kevin. I was just thinking the same thing. They aren’t as ignorant about the constitution as people think, they just don’t give a crap and want to change it to their own constitution for their socialistic/communistic “brave new world” of good little unthinking robots where every aspect of citizens lives are controlled by a few tyrants.

      • Daniel Wright

        The second amendment doesn’t specifically cover modern ammunition. It didn’t yet exist.That is their way out. Here is the answer………http://www.conventionofstates.com/

        • Daniel,
          Well taken. But how do you use a rifle without ammunition? That is no better than pointing a stick. Besides, the Second Amendment calls for a militia. Ever see an effective militia with no ammo? So this is a common sense position for us who know what the Second Amendment was intended.

          • Daniel Wright

            That is no mystery to those who read Amendment two in it’s proper context. This is what leftists as what the second amendment was created for……….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG-xPA9reHs Here is my evidence to the contrary…………..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CquUBWHU2_s…………..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8
            3dsre.

          • Daniel Wright

            This wouldn’t paste into my post so here it is……….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8

          • Earn nest

            Wow! This reminds me of “some are more equal than others.”

          • Patriot068

            No where in the 2 and does it refers to muskets!!! It gives us the right to form a well regulated militia& arm ourselves with weapons to defend ourselves & others against tyranny & to change by force if need be the tyrants in chsrge

          • Daniel Wright

            Agreed.That was my point. The writers of the second amendment intended “we the people” to have the latest technology available. That also applies to today’s cutting edge firearms.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – As stated elsewhere, we are agreed in that which is most important, no matter how petty each might disparage the perspective of another.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            What you see as petty I see as major. limiting a private citizen to the weapons and ammo he can carry virtually guarantees that he will be outgunned in a fight for freedom. Is that what you really want?

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – No, but then I also do not perceive myself to be either a liberal or God, able by divine dictate to redefine words.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            OK you are right. The second amendment was written to limit the weapons a citizen can carry. I suggest that you endeavor to become a supreme court justice so you can join in the effort to disarm and enslave the people. You insinuate that I believe I possess Divinity. Quite the opposite. It is you putting limitations on my rights,not the other way around. You want to nit pick me right into slavery. You may welcome the coming chains, I don’t

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Being wrong on all points neither stops you from believing yourself to be correct nor stops me from hazarding my life that you might publicly publish falsehoods.

            Have a nice day.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            Stupid is as stupid does. So long Forrest.

          • dickG

            WRONG, Jerry.
            .
            The word “Arms” covers ammunition, fireARMS, cannons, missiles, bombs, and the platforms from which to employ them ie: aircraft, ships, tanks, etc.!
            .

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – Let us not forget, in our enthusiasm for assuring our guaranteed rights, that the 2d Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is protective only of those arms capable of being borne, not those which can not be carried. I have yet to see anyone capable of carrying what we commonly know to be aircraft, ships, tanks ─ or even something as comparatively small and light as a 105mm howitzer. On the other hand, it IS possible to carry a 60mm mortar, a 57mm recoilless rifle, a light machinegun, a submachinegun, an assault rifle (NOT an “assault weapon,” for which there is no actual definition, except for “black and scary-looking”), and similar weaponry.

            Too, as a matter of law (which the Constitution of the United States is), that which is not mentioned a barred is permitted. By that means, We the People have the right to keep and bear grenades of all man-portable types. It is my personal belief that SCOTUS has erred in permitting overreach of regulation by the BATFE in that regard and others.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • dickG

            “the 2d Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is protective only of those arms capable of being borne, not those which can not be carried”
            .
            Where in the 2nd Amendment does it say that?
            .

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – The 2d Amendment to our Constitution of the United States of America is specific in saying, “…to…bear arms….” “To bear” is the infinitive verb, characteristically denoting the present tense, as in, “I bear myself in a military manner.” “Borne” is used when one states, “I have [previously] borne arms for my country,” that phrasing denoting the action having occurred in the past. “To bear” means “to carry,” as in the individual right to CARRY arms, the SCOTUS having already ruled, quite correctly, that it is not a collective right, as it might be for the organized militia (National Guard). The individual right for individuals to individually carry arms is guaranteed to the unorganized militia (originally, all healthy males between the ages of 18 and 15, not otherwise constrained by religious belief from carrying ─ bearing ─ arms. The definitions of words are not given in our Constitution; hence, the 2d Amendment, like the remainder of our Constitution, does not define words commonly known to all educated people. Definitions are usually found in dictionaries, the Constitution not being one. By definition and common understanding of terms in the English language, the 2d Amendment applies to arms (weapons) which can be borne individually, which, in my opinion, includes hand grenades. A stretch of that would also include manpack nuclear devices, though I don’t believe it is that which we are discussing. On the other hand, I have yet to meet the individual who can bear “…ships,airplanes, missiles [of the intercontinental variety]…” of which you speak. Even if one were to go to extremes and believe individuals have the God-given right to carry an aircraft carrier, I tend to doubt anyone could do so, and I tend not to think of an aircraft carrier as a crew-served weapon, though I could be wrong. (If you wish to prove me so, get a determination from Department of the Navy.)

            The uses you cite of large and/or heavy weapons during the American Revolutionary War were, as even you stated, DURING. During means “prior to” or “preceding,” not “following” or “after.” The Bill of Rights was written after/following that Revolution, not during, so citing that as precedent is irrelevant.

            I’m as hot on individual rights as anyone could imagine, but I do not presume to have rights which are not rightfully mine.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            I see that you are going to nit pick us to death. One of the general orders when I served said “I will walk my post in a military manner”. It only pertained to guard duty. There was never the word bear in that order.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Communicating is both the science and art of using words, the definitions of which are available in dictionaries. If one presumes words to mean that which each individual concocts, then yes, I’ll nitpick that ’til the cows come home after jumping over the moon.

            You are quite right in asserting that the General Orders under which we have both served do not bear the word “bear,” making your comment irrelevant to the discussion at hand. As a matter of form, I shall also concede that the word “carry” does not appear in that General Order, nor any form of the word, inclusive of “carriage,” that also being irrelevant to this discussion.

            If another example of correctly using the word “carry” is needed, try this: “Women commonly carry a purse, in which they carry all manner of things a man would never think to carry.” Better?

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            I was reading at a college level in the seventh grade in 1964 jerk, so don’t presume you have the intelligence or the right to treat me like your student. It was you who came up with the incorrect phrase . “bear yourself in a military manner”. If you don’t like having your mistakes corrected then don’t make them. The second amendment was phrased in simple English. I don’t need to be a college professor to understand it’s simple one sentence statement.You sound like an elitist leftist using twisted logic and phrases you think will go over my head. That will not happen Poindexter.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – And I beat your reading benchmark, but that’s hardly the issue.

            To “…bear yourself in a military manner…” is not either an incorrect phrase nor incorrect phrasing. You subsequently put unintended context to it, but that hardly means that I don’t customarily bear (carry) myself in a military manner. Life is not solely composed of guard duty, and even those not subject to the General Orders can bear themselves in ways not yet discussed, by bearing themselves poorly, for instance. As there is nothing to correct, thinking that you can correct that which is not incorrect, save by overlaying an unintended context of your own making, is tantamount to playing God. Feel free, but do not expect me to worship you.

            I stand with the dictionary ─ and common! ─ definition of “bear” (the verb). You, similarly to leftist liberal progressives, wish to redefine a commonly understood and well-defined word in the English language. I do not, Swee’pea, as that which is defined is hardly “…elitist leftist…twisted logic and phrases….” That I leave to you.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            You miss the entire meaning of the second amendment.You believe it is a limitation on the weapons a citizen can carry. The entire bill of rights is intended to limit the powers of the government and preserve the peoples rights. You see the second amendment as a limitation and a burden on the people. With friends like you we need no enemies.

          • dickG

            Indeed!

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – I doubt it would be possible for you to be more wrong about me, but I would fight to the death to insure your right to espouse even the falsehoods you so sincerely believe. Should you wish to be my enemy, then a dismal future awaits you, though one which you may avoid by recognizing that about which we agree as being more important than that with which you wrongly disagree ─ and I would fight that your freedom of choice be preserved, as has been repeatedly proven.

            The 2d Amendment to our Constitution of the United States of America is statement of a guaranteed right to possess (“keep”) and carry (“bear”) arms. Such a right is only “limited” by the definition of the words therein, none of those words appointing you as Emperor of the Known Universe and entitled thereby to redefine its wording as if you were an America-sacrificing liberal ─ but have a blast in that delusional fantasy!

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            So you are saying that If I am not strong enough to carry a particular firearm then it is illegal for me to own it under the limitations of the second amendment?

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – As per usual, when you attempt to mischaracterize that which I have stated or purport to know the manner in which I think, you inevitably err.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • dickG

            ” and I tend not to think of an aircraft carrier as a crew-served weapon, though I could be wrong. . . ”
            .
            I encourage you to try to employ one by yourself !!! I.e.: without a crew.
            .

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – Don’t be a dick! 🙂 An aircraft carrier is a crewed mode of transportation, and only incidentally may it be employed as a primary weapon by itself. In that regard, it may be thought of as much like a train, which is also crewed. Having a crew of more than one does not make trains weapons capable of being carried, however, though I’d happily be entertained by your efforts to bear one.

            Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

          • dickG

            Well, You’re too late. I already am a “Dick”.
            .
            That said, An aircraft carrier is a mobile “WEAPONS’ PLATFORM”. That is a mobile platform from which to launch weapons, just as a tank is a mobile weapons platform from which to launch any manner of cannon rounds, missiles, or small-arms rounds.
            .
            One generally needs a “platform” from which to launch ANY weapon. The human body is a platform for launching a fist, a swift kick, a spear, wielding a knife, or for the use of a bow to launch an arrow.
            .
            The aircraft carrier is a platform necessary for the launch of offensive or defensive armed aircraft from which missiles, bombs, or guns may be employed.
            .
            Samual Johnson – Dictionary of the English Language – 6th Edition Volume 01 1755

            Arms. n. s. without the singular number, [arma, Lat.]
            Weapons of offence, or armour of defence.
            .
            This is the dictionary in general use at the time of the writing of our Founding Documents, including the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment.
            .
            Kind of all-inclusive, isn’t it?.
            .
            This is my private personal and home defense weapon of choice. The tractor and low-boy trailer are necessary as part of the weapon system which allows it to be employed from different locations on my property.
            .
            “Over-kill”! You say?
            .
            “Perhaps”!

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – Though I doubt that a smiley would be defined by Samuel Johnson (he who is anecdotally noted for informing a statured lady of the difference between “stink” and “smell”), you might be persuaded to look in your personal dictionary of his regarding the definition of “bear.”

            Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

          • Daniel Wright

            I realize that you see yourself as superior to the “unwashed” who disagree with you. The amendment says what the people CAN do. You see it as telling the people what they CAN”T do. You can try to intimidate others with your superiority complex all you want. Even if you are the smartest person in the room.(which I highly doubt) that doesn’t make you right. PS,I see you use Latin in the attempt to impress those who disagree with you with your superior knowledge. The latest one you used also applies to me.. I also have a functioning brain. Here is one for you. osculari asinum.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – When you feebly attempt to characterize my thinking, like any other liberal taking liberties with the truth, you mischaracterize. The 2d Amendment, by the way, in no wise informs “…people what they CAN”T (sic) do.” Quite the opposite, despite the fact that you see disagreement where there is none, as any liberal contrarian would.

            Latin is not used by me “…in the attempt to impress those who disagree…” In the case of, “Cogito, ergo armatus sum,” however, my thinking is in harkening to a time when what might otherwise be complex and lengthy statements of one’s personal philosophies could be poetically condensed into but a few, powerful words. That you take exception to intelligence, education and history is regrettable, albeit accepted as a condition of our discourse.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I AM A LIBERAL. HILARIOUS. Rush Limbaugh is too liberal for me you idiot! I am also not the two digit IQ moron you imply . It is funny that you use the same tactics a liberal uses then call me a liberal. You are a good student a Saul. I see you have used rules 3,4,5,8,10 and 11 in your arguments. Nice try..

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – With your statement of, “I AM A LIBERAL,” I need read no further. Take your liberalism to O’BammyNanny as a trophy of ignorance.

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          • Daniel Wright

            How soon you forget. It was you who first accused me of being a liberal. Do yourself a favor and click on my avatar. That will lead you directly to my history on Disqus. If you take the time to read my posts and then still believe that I am a liberal then I suggest that you see a Psychiatrist soon. By the way, I did recognize several of Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals in the way you talk to your dissenters. If you really are conservative then you have adopted some very left wing methods in you debating style. here they are. time for some self reflection. http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – I here quote your exact and complete sentence: “I AM A LIBERAL.” There is an absence of the word “no,” either uppercase or lowercase, whether with or without open or closed brackets.

            As for liberties taken by a liberal, stating that which is untrue and restating it ad infinitum is a liberal tactic which you use ad yawnum. It does not cease to amaze me that you apparently think such a repetitive use of misstatement will escape the notice of anyone with nominal intelligence. When one means of telling falsehoods fails consistently, either change tactics to another way of lying, or change tactics by telling the truth (though I realize that the latter may come with some difficulty to those of libiotic bent).

            At least it’s been entertaining! (Your ESL tutor may also be amused by your flailing efforts to dislodge truth from its firm foundation.)

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          • Daniel Wright

            Every one knows that man’s first mode of transportation was his own feet. Also you know that a trained soldier is a weapon in himself. Feet to horses to chariots to trucks and Jeeps to aircraft. Hands to clubs to knives to spears to arrows to muskets to Winchesters to m16s, Everything evolves in time including weapons. It is you who is being a dick. You are stuck on that one word to the point of absurdity. You say that I am playing God for defending my position.Your opinion of the proper context of the word bear in the second amendment is just that, your opinion, no more. Why do you use a four letter word as a club to attack those who wish to assert their constitutional rights? I am sure that you have more firearms than you can carry at one time. Using your logic you should turn them all into the government. If that is not in your plans then I suggest that you stop telling others to do so.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Having not told anyone to turn all their firearms in to the government, it could only be libiotic illogic which could lead anyone to believe such a falsehood concerning that which has been clearly stated otherwise. Too, I do not attack by use of the word “bear,” unless you also contend that the Framers attacked by virtue of the 2d Amendment to our Constitution of the United States of America, a revered document, the essence and spirit of which I have taken an unrescinded oath to uphold with my life.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I took the same oath. I understand . However it is you who argues that the second amendment only allows anyone to have the amount or weight of firearm he can ‘bear”. If you are right then it would be illegal for a private citizen to own said amount or weight. An otherwise law abiding person would be obliged to turn in every weapon not allowed. I am only responding to your words. You lectured me on the meaning of words in pointing out your interpretation of the word “bear” in the constitution even hinting that I may be stupid enough to believe that the word bear referred to a furry woodland creature. I fail to see what makes me the bad guy here, I am not trying to limit your rights. It is you who wish to limit the gun rights of all Americans,including yourself. If I shared your interpretation of the second amendment I would never own more firearms than I could “bear” at one time unassisted. I would expect you to do the same. That law in itself would be totally unfair seeing that a large,strong man already holding a size and strength advantage would also be allowed to possess more firepower than a smaller weaker man. Your adamant insistence that your interpretation of the word bear is correct is admirable though misguided. It ignores the possible negative ramifications it could create. We must look back to the reasoning the founding fathers used in crafting the second amendment, I doubt if the second amendment was meant to keep the people as helpless against tyranny as possible. If I were a framer of the second amendment I would want the people to be as strong as they had to be in order to defend their freedom. Limiting the arms they could own would have the opposite effect.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Your misinterpretation of what I stated is doubtlessly intended to bolster the “living document” perspective of our Constitution of the United States of America. There are two (2) words of relevance to the aspect addressed here. That you choose to ignore “keep” (“have”) as being one of them is preposterously deceptive.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I have my own copy of the constitution.I have the single sentence text of the second amendment committed to memory. I don’t need to read the words directly from the physical page in order to quote that simple one sentence statement. You are making an erroneous assumption of my intent. I believe that the constitution should be taken literately word for word. That silly “living document” crap is just that,crap. If I am in error as to your argument about the context of the word” BEAR” as it appears in the text of the constitution then please enlighten me. As I have stated in previous posts I could read and comprehend at a college level in 1964. You have told me and others that if a person can’t carry a weapon due to its weight then he has no right to have it under the under the second amendment.. Now you deny it then try to say I misinterpreted your words. I am not illiterate nor do I have a two digit IQ. You said what you said,then deny saying it. I just can’t see your point.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – I deny nothing of that which I have stated. I DO deny the twisted misinterpretations into which you contort my statements. While I may wish our Constitution of the United States of America read in a manner you contort it to say, facts remain facts, and no amount of liberalization of intent changes them. “Keep” has one meaning, one definition; “bear” has a different meaning and a different singular definition. When one is a god or a liberal ─ or, as liberals apparently believe, both ─ then definitions change as you would change them. Until I acknowledge you as a Supreme Being ─ which is highly unlikely ─ learn to live in the real world of human communication in plain English. The 2-digit IQ of which you attribute to me is only reflective of 1-digit envy, evident in the twist of your panties and the concomitant reduction in braincells post-1964.

            Here’s some enlightenment which, I might add, you requested: “[You are] in error as to [my] argument about the context of the word” BEAR” (sic)….”

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          • Daniel Wright

            @dickG. “Let us not forget ,in our enthusiasm for assuring our guaranteed rights,that the 2nd amendment to the constitution of the United States of America is protective only of those arms capable of being borne,not those which cannot be carried” You posted that statement two days ago. Do you now deny that those are you words?.

          • dickG

            Mr. Wright.
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            1. I DO deny having said that the 2nd Amendment is protective of only those arms which can be carried by an individual and even eluded to aircraft carriers as inclusive in the meaning of 2nd Amendment protections.
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            Here is the post, first quoting YOU, I believe in the first sentence which is IN quotes”.
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            “the 2d Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is protective only of those arms capable of being borne, not those which can not be carried”
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            Where in the 2nd Amendment does it say that?
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            During the revolutionary war all manner of cannons, mortars, and armed civilian ships were donated, commandeered, or otherwise acquired and sometimes their crews, from what were then individual SUBJECTS of Great Britain by the Continental Army. So the tradition of civilians keeping and bearing arms includes crew-served weapons, cannon and armed merchant ships, thus setting a great tradition and Right to which the 2nd Amendment enumerates.
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            Unless one believes that the 1st Amendment DOES NOT apply to computers, radios, and television, one must assume that the 2nd Amendment applies to knives, spears, hand grenades, ships, airplanes, missiles (after all their were “rockets” in existence at the time) and all other manner of terrible weapons (arms) of war.
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            2. I have never insulted your manhood coded or otherwise!
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            3. Nowhere, on this forum or elsewhere have I discussed YOUR IQ, or mine nor have I eluded to your limited mental capacity (until now).
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            4. I believe it is YOU Sir who needs to bone up on your English comprehension. Perhaps a 5th grade class would help despite your claims of superiority in that endeavor!
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          • Daniel Wright

            MrG. If you take the time to read the heading of the post you just responded to you will realize that I wasn’t talking to you at all. I used quotation marks because I was quoting Dwraer22 when he used those words to lecture you on the meaning of the second amendment. He even went as far as using your name to insult you. REMEMBER???

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – I will again state, since a first iteration appears not to have been comprehended by your genius, that I do not deny anything I have written. On the other hand, as you are apparently unable to read in English, please have your ESL tutor explain the difference between “keep” (possess) and “bear” (carry), as this obviously escapes your limited understanding.

            I have “coded” nothing, and with having an education in the focussed field of cryptology/decryptology, I tend toward thinking that I’d know if I had, particularly upon re-reading. As for your “manhood,” I do not insult that of which is not possessed by you, Swee’pea.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Excuse my ignorance. I was unaware that you actually didn’t say what you said. I posted a quote of a response you made to dickG. Are you now denying being the author of that quote? You sure are ignoring it. Shades of Hillary. You said that I possessed one digit envy. That could be interpreted as penis envy. As you seem to believe that you are the wisest and most manly guy on the planet I assumed that that was your message to me. As for your interpretation of the second amendment I will consider your opinion on it moot. It is illogical and non sequitur. You are not in charge of the official interpretation of the constitution.I thank God for that.The second that you become the dictator of the United states you will replace the supreme court as the final arbiter of the constitution. Until that happens I suggest you kiss my ass.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – For followers of the inanity (Insanity?) personified and perpetuated by Daniel Wright, y’all have my apologies that he is possessed (I suppose I could stop right there!) of the inability to understand that a statement of non-denial is one which, in this instance, denies not having denied.

            Oh, Danny boy, if you misinterpret “1-digit envy” in the context of intelligence as being “penis envy,” then it is that much more likely your misinterpretation strikes closer to the truth than I had ever imagined or intended. Your lack of esteem due to the lack of equipment is showing even more than your slip when the breezes blow your dress up, Buttercup!

            Of COURSE a libiot such as yourself would think the 2d Amendment to our Constitution of the United States of America is “…illogical and non sequitur,” as you aver.

            While we’re at it, you might consider not invoking God with your gratitude, in a weak attempt to bolster your image by aligning your libiotism with those wo are actually respectful of God.

            Assuaging your homosexual lust by even being close to your overused posterior is, I ASSure you, the farthest from my hetero desires! Use one of the O’Bamanistos you have as bed-buddies for such activities as you suggest, for I’d only have to use the foot of one of your girly-boys wrapped in barbwire inserted sideways, should I found myself so unfortunate as to be that close.

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          • dickG

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            And Drawer22, after reading your cutesy, sophomoric (nay juvenile) rant above, I have no use for your opinion on ANY subject.
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            You have relegated yourself to nothing more than a large pile of what the image below detects:

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – It is my fondest desire that, your having copied the above insult to this discussion, you will now take your trollibiotic inanities elsewhere, for I tire of laughing at your libiotic illogic, fun as it has been.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Just like a faithful follower of old Saul;accuse your enemy of your activities before he can expose you. Nice try Comrade.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Thank you for having come out of the closet, SweetLips. I hadn’t know you were my enemy. Heretofore, I’d thought you to be just a normally ill-educated, trollibiotic half-witted American with a misguided tendency toward believing leftist ideology. As the enemy you assert yourself to be, you are no “Comrade” of mine or those patriots with whom I choose to associate.

            You are also deleted from my Christmas list. 🙂

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          • Daniel Wright

            Since I am usually called a right wing extremist by those I argue with on Disqus I think you are very funny. You obviously think I am enraged by your silly gay accusations;not so. It is the M.O. of the left wing to accuse the right of committing the perversions they are guilty of. Sorry,but my name is Daniel not Neal to your Bob. I am not your enemy, you are mine. I don’t assume the authority to restrict your rights, you are claiming the right to restrict mine. I believe in the right to bear arms and if you think that I don’t have that right then try and take mine away.Those coming to my house with violent intentions will soon find if they can outrun buckshot,asshole.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – You may be a right-wing extremist in the opinion of your fellow libiotic, over-the-top BammyBuddies, but the truth is much too difficult for either you or they to understand from your leftist perspective, for repetition of lies does not make them the truth, no matter how you fantasize it to be so.

            Oh, and juvenile, vulgar name-calling does nothing to advance your leftist cause, no matter how grown up you may think it sounds.

            You might try being observant, for it could serve you well, HoneyBunch.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I would recommend drowning your sorrows with a good drunk but that will most likely kill all your remaining brain cells.Join your butt buddy in Obama in the down low club and have a gay old time. As for me I’m leaving you behind for good and going on with my life. Goodbye……..idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Plagiarizing my points about you for the purpose of throwing them back as if you thought of them yourself doesn’t earn you a better score for originality. Go back to your Liberal Studies instructors and ask to be taught originality, supplementing that with a tutoring by an English language teacher, preferably one familiar with ESL. Until then…,

            “Goodbye……..idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

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          • dickG

            Thank you, Sir
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            I can’t say it’s been a pleasure. May we never meet again.
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – I’m wondering what it takes for you to refrain from prevarication and adhere to your good-byes. Even those are lies!

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          • Daniel Wright

            If you are withdrawing from this discussion with your tail between your legs then i say Good riddance. You made no logical sense anyway.

          • dickG

            I thought his Liber-Logic was wonderful.

          • Daniel Wright

            And taken directly from “rules for radicals”. I’m glad that you realize that It wasn’t you I was admonishing earlier.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – You REALLY don’t know the type of person I am and have obviously no knowledge of the education, training and experience received. I’d refer you to some relevant literature, were you able to comprehend English at a level higher than your ESL tutor apparently has time to give you.

            You are quite right to establish that logic has no place in the Illogic you present. Have fun with your dolly and BammyBuddies, and leave the grown-ups alone.

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          • dickG

            ” . . . no knowledge of the education, training and experience received. ”
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            Very true Drawer22. But what we DO know is that you are an arrogant jerk of the first order.

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – The arrogance of which you speak is well-earned. I’ll leave you to “jerk” Danny in his first order of business. Have fun, y’all!

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          • dickG

            “The arrogance of which you speak is well-earned.”
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            I’m very sure you believe that.
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG:disqus – FINALLY! We are in agreement!

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          • dickG

            I thought you’d agree. Any self-promoting, hypocritical narcissist would.
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            You, Sir have maxed out the hypocrisy meter.

          • Drawer22

            @dickG:disqus – And you, dicky, are proof that liberalism is a psychosis. With any luck, you’ve been sterilized, just in case the condition is genetic. If not, bear in mind that I perform surgery with a P38 can opener, but my waiting list is lengthy.

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          • dickG

            Well, you just keep waiting. I’m all for that. But please do EVERYONE a favor and do it quietly.
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – The surgery is quiet. The screams you hear are those you’ll be mimicking when it’s your turn.

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          • dickG

            Wow. And now you’re a fortune teller and a predictor of the future.
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            What next?
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            I’ll bet your P38 is sharper than your brain by a long shot.
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – And you, in keeping with libiotic elitism, misrepresent yourself as a mind-reading deity. Fascinating, as one might characterize an unusual insect.

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          • dickG

            Well, good for you. I’m not much interested in your fondest “desires” or what makes you tired.

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – Then you’d be well-advised not to read that which you are unable to comprehend without the concerted assistance of your ESL tutor. You and your BammyBuddy are better suited to playing with his dolly anyway, as that’s apparently what blows your dress up.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I hope that you now realize who the real idiot is. I share your desire to remain as well armed as possible despite what Drawer22 thinks. God bless America!!!

          • dickG

            I wasn’t aware that Drawer22 had the ability to “think”.
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          • Daniel Wright

            Good point.He believes that denying us the access to some weapons should be considered a freedom. The only thing he wants to do is to free us of the “burden” of “Bearing” firearms. He also denies taking that position claiming that his words are being misinterpreted. Curious,and sad.

          • Daniel Wright

            As usual you are twisting my words asshole! It was your stupid interpretation of the second Amendment that I was referring to SHITFORBRAINS!!!!! I am a liberal Obama lover. Hilarious. You sound like a leftist troll. Stop insisting that you have the authority to interpret the constitution.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – How trollibiotic of you to resort to infantile name-calling. Should I or anyone have need proof, you just gave it, and for that I thank you.

            And there you go again, asserting that you haven’t said what you state. As the Star Trek character, Spock, might have said, “Fascinating.”

            The 2d Amendment to our Constitution of the United States of America needs no interpretation. Only trollibiots like yourself assert their misinterpretations as being the words of a power greater than We, the People. Were their delusions of godliness not so obvious, some might be idolatrously persuaded, and doubtless other “progressives” are. Continue to play with your dolly and your boyfriends, BammyBoy. Adults have more productive tasks to accomplish than to waste further energies on the leftist-influenced intellectually challenged.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I am not the one interpreting the second amendment. I take it literally, word for word. You see it as a restriction on my rights then say that it guarantees my rights. If you stole someones wallet would you then claim that you gave him something? Keep digging. The hole is over your head. soon you will be trapped forever. I am convinced that all your machismo is hiding the fact that you were the one who gave your lunch money to the school bully every day. Your bullshit is stinking up the internet, pussy.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – By repeating a lie incessantly, you may, in time, get some of your BammyBuddies to believe what no intelligent person would. Just keep on going for whatever blows your dress up, for you are powerless to change facts.

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          • Daniel Wright

            What lie is that Einstein? That the founding fathers wanted the citizens militia to to be out gunned by a foreign invasion force? They weren’t as stupid as you think they were anymore than you are as smart as you think you are. I have better things to do besides arguing higher mathematics with a chimp.Goodbye Bonzo.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – As basic arithmetic remains a mystery to you, I’m surprised you even know of higher math! And as for your prevarications, they are as morbidly stale as the decades-old leftist tactics you seem to be trying to learn and apply (albeit with only limited success). A banana slug could do better!

          • dickG

            Indeed. Even a banana slug could do better in that even a banana slug knows that the Bill of Rights is not a Bill of Needs, nor is it in any way a restriction on The People, the concept of which in your attempted re-definition of the word “bear’ indicates, you are unaware.
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            In your attempt to appear to be the smartest slug in the world, you have only made a fool of yourself and exposed your Laughable-Logic to all who read your blabber.
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            Well done Sir, but not well played.
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – Continue your misrepresentations to your little, black, libiotic heart’s content, Grasshopper. No one with intelligence could possibly be convinced by your prevarications.

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          • dickG

            So just a quick question or two. Or three:
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            If I rode up to your house in a wagon and said to you; “Drawer22. I come bearing gifts for you. They are in the wagon under the tarp.”
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            Would that be a correct usage of the word “bear” as applied to an individual (referring back to “I”)?
            Would it be an improper use of the word “bear” to elude to the “gifts” in the wagon as the gifts I was bearing?
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            If my brother was sitting beside me in the wagon, would it be permissible to say “We are bearing gifts for you”?
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – In particularity of context, no.

            The word with which you are only passingly familiar is “alude.” Most people would not elude gifts with which they might be showered, though if bestowed by you, one might rightly view them warily.

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          • dickG

            @Drawer22: Thankfully, your quick mind was able to spot my typo and so dramatically conclude my true meaning. What an astounding feat of logic and intellect.
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            Since you were only able to address one of my three questions on the above exam, however, YOU FAIL the class. Or was your answer meant to be germane to all three questions?
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          • Drawer22

            @dickG – You have my apology for your inability to think in English and my failure to simplify at the level of the lowest common denominator. Too, those who may have followed this thread have my apology for having attempted too long at providing basic information to obvious anti-Constitutionalists who have yet to pass elementary ESL. In defense, it was with the hope that persuasive patriotism might save the day. I have been in error.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I have ignored zero.If “keep” wasn’t included in the prohibition of weapons you see in the second amendment then why do you insert fighter jets and aircraft carriers into the argument? You say that the Constitution only covers the weapons you can carry.Why do you believe that the founding fathers saw it necessary to put an amendment in the constitution telling intelligent,full grown men not to pick up more than they could carry? That is absurd. Do you think that the minute men were idiots?The way you word your argument, it is illegal to own any weapon you are not strong enough to carry. If that is not your argument then I suggest that you reword it.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – The difference between “owning” and “bearing” may well be covered should you pursue ESL at the intermediate level.

            While I have the greatest respect for America’s forebears, I have comparatively little for your libiotic, contrarian perspectives, bearing in mind your excessively limited understanding of the English language, either historically or presently. If you are unable to comprehend plain English, either ask your ESL tutor for assistance or take the proverbial action as regards a rolling doughnut. In the meantime, please keep your aircraft carriers off my lawn.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I have no desire to buy an aircraft carrier. Neither do have the riches to buy one. I love how you claim to be conservative while using left wing tactics such as questioning my intelligence and ability to comprehend simple English.The bill of rights points out the freedoms the people have and the restrictions there are on government powers and authorities. You see it the other way around. That is NOT a conservative stance. You can conduct your life in any way you wish. That is of no consequence to me. I don’t assume to have the authority to tell you what you can and cannot do. You are the one who assumes you have that that power over the entire country. I believe in freedom. Why don’t you?

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Having already well-proven my adherence to unrescinded oaths I’ve taken in support of our Constitution of the United States of America, such libiotic rants of misrepresentative illogic fall far from the mark.

            As you have yet to display the intelligence of an overmedicated banana slug or basic understanding of simple English, I need only point out those observations. Recognition of reality is a conservative trait, unlike your libiotic rantings.

            I have continued to point out that I see the rights which are Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms as being restrictions on government, not individuals. Your inability to understand that verifies the credulity of the paragraph preceding this.

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          • Daniel Wright

            My intelligence is not in question it your lack of logic and/or your honesty. You stated that the second amendment only covers the weapons a person can carry.You have made that statement on several occasions. If you deny it again I can only ascertain that you are suffering from some mental condition. You state that the second amendment limits the weapons the people can keep then you deny saying it. Then,on top of that you say I am twisting your words. In the words of Ralph Kramden. YOU,ARE A MENTAL CASE!!!! If I am wrong about your delusional state then my only alternative is to conclude that you are a left wing troll and a Damned liar!!

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Incessantly repeating an untruth and expanding upon it does not imbue it with any the more truth. A lie is still a lie, no matter how many times you say it in however many ways. Try giving up lying for just one post, you befuddled, powerless, miserable trollibiot ─ and if you are eventually able to do so serially, you may find truth more comfortable to handle on a regular basis.

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          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – My words are a matter of record, and they do not reflect your “progressively” untruthful blather about them. As leftists go, you’re not sufficiently well trained in how to spin the written word to reflect the indoctrination received by your masters. One could only presume that the present line of manure you spread is practicing for a basic test, which I assure you of a failing grade unless you do your studies better. You may tell your socialist instructor that you need more tutoring, perhaps either in word manipulation, ESL ─ or both! As it is, you only come off looking like the foolish, undereducated, trollibiot that you are.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Since everything I post on the internet remains there in perpetuity my words are a matter of record too idiot. As for my. “Socialist” instructors I count Rush Limbaugh,Mark Levin,Mark Stein, Michael Savage and Tom Gresham as my sources. Tell Rachael Madcow and Al Sharpton hello for me You lying piece of excrement!

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Keep attempting to change truth to the libiotically inspired lies you propound. It doesn’t change the truth.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I am changing nothing. It is you who see the second amendment as a restriction on our liberties in stead of a guarantee to not take the peoples rights away. I believe that you are now at this very moment being handed your meds by a nice man in a white coat. when you have access to the asylum’s computer you rant on conservative websites telling them that they are all socialist idiots for believing that the constitution says what it says. This is what I am now srguing is the truth about Obama. If you mdisagree then the last ntwo words of the English lesson in the second link will be the last post to you. http://commieblaster.com/obamacrimes/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Though the message seems to be lost on you (as it would be to any dyed-in-the-wool libiot, not excepting yourself), repetition of lies does not magically convert them to truths. Have a nice, med-induced dream that it does.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I see that you will never be convinced that the second amendment says what is says. You seem to think that using military quotations will make you look conservative. I will take my usual blood pressure meds (all i take) and go to bed secure in the knowledge that I am safe in my house, thanks to the freedom the second amendment guarantees my (In spite of your leftist opinion). You can watch the orderly lock the door to your rubber room. Goodbye………………….NUT!.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – With any luck, you will now be true to your word. However, being a liberal, being true to our word does not come naturally. I understand your dilemma. Nevertheless, I bid you adieu, knowing full well you have more rants to vent about our Constitution.

            For your information, I have not used any “military quotations” of which I am aware. For instance, “dyed-in-the-wool libiot” is not military, by any means, though I have heard other military personnel refer to “lies” told by liberals like yourself. While your exclamatory, “NUT!” is reminiscent of an American response at Bastogne, if that is the millitary quotation to which you refer, you have quoted incorrectly.

            I can fully understand why you would need to take blood pressure meds, while concealing your use of psychotropics. Nighty-night and sleep well, knowing your betters are securing your collective safety around the globe.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Facts are not rants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_oppresso_liber Now what was that about not using military terms again? You end with this in every post……….. stupid. By the way Just because you were a grunt doesn’t mean you are smarter than the people who had highly technical Mos’s like I did. I fired expert, could crawl under barbed wire and throw grenades too.I was considered more valuable than a mere ground pounder like you and less expendable.

          • Daniel Wright

            To which truth do you refer? The one that says “A well regulated militia,being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. Which part of that one sentence do you disagree with? I am not trying to change a truth. You are trying to change the basic meaning of the second amendment. Where do you see any restrictions In the text? P.S. Your incessant butchering of the English language Makes me wonder just where you get off criticizing any of my wordings or interpretations. P.S.S……….. since you love Latin phrases,translate this……….Osculari asinum!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Having already responded to your med-induced fantasies of lies being truth, I see no reason to defend the clear language of the 2d Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America from the ravings of a libiot such as yourself. Disagree with our Constitution all you wish, for the 1st Amendment to that revered document assures your right to do so (no matter how foolish your libiotic rants may be). I and others like me will be around to assure that right of free speech by application of the 2d Amendment, for it is upon your betters that you rely for your freedoms.

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          • Patriot068

            The clause ( well regulated militia ) does NOT include the National Guard as most seem to think!! The Natl Guard was not formed until about 100 years after the 2 and was written. The ” well regulated militia” was written into the constitution to guarantee all males between 17-65 were to have arms & ammunition to fight tyranny and the 2nd guarantees that. A well regulated militia does not include the Natl Guard though they are state run but lest anyone forget they not only get state funding but also FEDERAL funding _& can be federalized to do as Potus sees fit!!.
            A true Militia is an all volunteer force who receives no federal funds what so ever!! Are volunteers who meet 1-2 x a month to do training. Each person is responsible for their own arms & ammo with NO FEDERAL FUNDING.
            I say its high time for us to bring back Militias!!
            Ex military will be the back bone of the Militias as well as cops,,FF, EMS personnel etc.
            Each person is responsible for their own uniform.
            Each militia leader must make sure each person has a firearm that is comparable with every member in the group as well as a side arm & training.
            A militia member can quit anytimr they wish unlike a Natl Guard member who is subject to the UCMJ.
            Don’t forget the well regulated militia clause was written into the constitution under the 2nd amendment & how many years after was the National Guard formed??! Which BTW was formed to augment the regular & reserve component of the active duty militsry

          • Drawer22

            @Patriot068 – Quite correct, for the most part. However, as explained elsewhere, it has been known for some time that the National Guard is representative of the organized militia, while the “unorganized” (no matter how well organized!) militia is formed of the body of the People.

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          • Daniel Wright

            That militia is required to be well regulated. Unfortunately it is not allowed to be well armed. Right 22?

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – As usual, you’re wrong again, but I’m coming to expect that.

            By the way, Drawer 22 ─ not “22,” as you’ve incorrectly used it ─ was my address in the ‘Nam. Feel free to correct your misimpression ─ or not, if you prefer. At least you’ll know that you’re wrong each time, should you choose to be incorrect on that count, as well.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I see no such limitation in my copy of the constitution. Please show the related contingency clause in the second amendment.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – As I neither mentioned any “contingency” nor limitation, I have not way of knowing to which of several related topics your query refers. For a response which may be relevant, please refer to my answers to dickG, below.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I was referring to your assumption that the second amendment only covered weapons a person can carry in their hands. I see the second as not denying the people the right to own the latest technology of the day.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Since “bear” (the verb, not the animal) means “carry,” I am unable to discern your disagreement. If “bear” has a meaning which is only known to a few individuals who wish (like liberals) to manipulate into meaning something other than that by which dictionaries define it, then please take it to heart that I’m no liberal, and I use dictionary definition as being the arbiter of such disagreement.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I understand your logic perfectly, thank you. However, I disagree with you wholeheartedly. The second amendment was inserted into the constitution in order to make it harder for a tyrannical government to take control of the country.In order for it to be effective in that effort to prevent that tyranny forming it is necessary for the [people]. You know.”we the people” to have the latest weaponry available. You stick to the letter of the law while ignoring it’s spirit.. The bill of rights wasn’t put there to limit the peoples rights it is meant to protect them. Contrary to your opinion it is true that “the constitution is not a suicide pact” no matter how you see it.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Apparently, you fail to understand that we are fundamentally saying the same thing. Where the disagreement seems to lie is in your desire to expand rights beyond the words defining them. I, too, would like to do so, but I am constrained to that which is Constitutionally guaranteed, not to my own desires.

            How you come to the conclusion that the Constitution is a suicide pact is far beyond my meager understanding of that revered document.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I have no argument about the definition of the verb bear. I do disagree with your silly contention that the second amendment limits my right to having only the amount, design or weight of weapon or weapons I can carry on my person at one time. I see only freedom in those words not restrictions. The second amendment guarantees the right to carry weapons. There is no mention of the mode you use to carry them. I have a class A commercial drivers license. Trucking companies are commonly referred as carriers of freight. In the evolved,modern context of the word carry; using your logic that would give me the right to own and transport a 53′ trailer with 80,000 lbs of weapons and ammo. I am not claiming that right nor do I have the money to buy said tractor trailer combination or the weapons to fill it. I am just reminding you that there are ways that words can come back and bite you right on the ass.

          • Daniel Wright

            If you read my post in it’s proper context you will realize that my position is that ammunition [was definitely] intended to be covered by the second amendment. I was saying that leftists could use the argument that ammo wasn’t specifically mentioned so therefore you could only bear muskets. That is a silly argument on it’s face. The second amendment didn’t mention powder,patches or lead balls either. That fact shows the stupidity of the muskets only argument.

          • Daniel,
            There is no difference between a bow and an arrow. One is useless without the other.

          • Drawer22

            @Jerry Branson – There is most definitely a difference between a projectile and that from which a projectile is launched, just as there is a difference between a bullet and a firearm. You are, however, correct in asserting that one is useless without the other.

            Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

          • dickG

            There certainly is a difference between a projectile and that from which a projectile is launched, but they are BOTH considered “arms”.

          • Drawer22

            @dickG – As stated elsewhere, we are agreed in pertinent part.

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          • Daniel Wright

            A firearm and its proper ammunition are both components of a mechanistic symbiotic system. Essentially they are both components of the same mechanism ,as in a car and it’s fuel. In a struggle of the people to prevent a tyrannical government from seizing power:[which is why the second amendment was created in the first place], It would most likely be a long term proposition of months or even years. That being said it is absurd to believe that the amendment to the constitution that authorizes the force that would fight the tyranny would limit the members of said force to the arms and ammunition that he could carry at one time. That is your argument.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Yet only a fool would argue that petroleum products and metal are the same.

            The remainder of your statement is arguably sufficient to be labeled as correct, albeit in portion and pertinent part.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Only an idiot would assume that my metaphor was meant to be taken literally. I also don’t confuse steel with gunpowder. What did I say that gave you that impression?

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – To respond to your query: From what you have stated supporting the proposition that bullets and firearms are one and the same.

            Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

          • Daniel Wright

            They are two separate components of the same weapons system. It’s not rocket science Einstein!!! Osculari asinum!

          • Patriot068

            Hmmmm they wanna play that card then I say its high time for us normal folks to form local militias!!! & that doesn’t include the National Guard which most dumb shits seem to think that clause includes & means a well regulated militia means the Natl Guard but doesn’t. The well regulated militia stands for regular folks not affiliated with any military organization & the Natl Guard was formed way way past the constitution!!
            I say its way past time for us to form the well regulated militia the constitution calls for

          • Daniel Wright

            I agree but if drawer 22 has his way you will only be allowed to own the amount of weapons and ammo you can carry at one time.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Like a liberal, you mischaracterize, as is to be expected.

            Out of curiosity, with what US military/naval unit(s) have you served?

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          • Daniel Wright

            US army. Signal corps. Communication for a hawk missile battery in Schweinfurt Germany. 1971-72.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Thank you for responding so promptly, and thank you for your apparently conscripted service to our country, judging from the brevity of your time in service. As that contribution was overseas and during a time in our history when returning Veterans were less than well appreciated for having honorably done the bidding of those we served, WELCOME HOME, soldier.

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          • Daniel Wright

            Thank you for your service also. I was RA,not USA. I joined. Thanks for you thinly veiled insult to my courage and patriotism. I was appalled at the way all GIs were treated, Myself included. I admit that I never set foot in Vietnam, I went where they sent me,just like you did, but that didn’t matter to the protesters in the San Francisco who spat at me and called me a baby killer when I came home. Thanks for your support.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – There being no “…thinly veiled insult…,” either to your courage or patriotism, I’ll presume your apology and accept it.

            Having started off RA Airborne, I was in training for almost 3½ years, during which I continually requested assignment to RVN. Getting intolerant of not being so assigned, I determined the published cost for each course to which I’d been sent, then called up DA, telling the nice lady that my ETS was coming up, I’d be getting off Active Duty if I weren’t sent to the ‘Nam, and the amount of money which would have been poorly invested in me. She called back in about 10 minutes asking what date I’d like to depart from CONUS. I enjoyed my first tour so much that I volunteered for a second, but DA said they wouldn’t let me have a third tour as it would keep others from being able to go. As it was, after BCT and AIT, I never served anywhere in a unit that wasn’t all volunteers, until I took command of an AIT Infantry company at Fort Lewis, WA, and was training people in the snow for deployment to the ‘Nam! Interesting how DA does things!

            When I got sent back to CONUS for good, I came back through Travis AFB, CA, arriving in the middle of the night, which avoided the protestors at that hour. On the other hand, a friend of mine who was slated to go out of Travis AFB during the day was gutshot by a peacefully protesting hippie girl with a .25cal semi-automatic pistol, which kept him from his scheduled departure date until he persuaded the medicos that he was good to go. Amazing how nothing says, “Peace!” like a bullet!

            You’re quite welcome to my support. There is no regret, however, for having possibly taken your place in the ‘Nam, as those tours were the best of my military career. I was greedy to keep where I belonged, knowing I’d never be a good garritrooper or able to fit into peacetime again, whether soldiering or as a dam’ civilian.

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          • Daniel Wright

            I salute your courage and patriotism Thank you again. I was just curious as to why you assumed that I was a draftee. I was also curious as the the pertainance of your mentioning the Vietnam protesters knowing that I served in Germany. I was guaranteed the MOS I chose when I joined. There was no guarantee as to where I would serve; in fact when my graduating class received our orders both men flanking me in my squad went to Vietnam. It was known through scuttlebut that our C.O had been a company commander in a combat unit in Vietnam. He was the only survivor in the massacre of his entire company. He was obviously a young man but I never heard or saw him speak to anyone. He kept to himself and we only saw him returning from his monthly trips to the PX when we were in the pay line. He was obviously a very tortured man who ate when he was depressed. He was probably in his early thirties and was a Captain. I never saw a fatter man in uniform. He was just over six feet and must have weighed at least 400 lbs. The pain in his eyes convinced me that Vietnam was no place for me. However I would not have hesitated to go if ordered. My family served in the ARMY since WW1. MY uncle Walter told me of the horrors of the trenches in France in 1917. My dad was in the occupation forces in Rome, (he was too young for the war).His older brother drove a Sherman and was wounded in the battle of the bulge and two other uncles were career army both serving 23 years from Korea to Vietnam. My family has served and fought for generations and I am rightly insulted when someone hints that I would shirk my duties. Like I said,I went where they sent me.

          • Drawer22

            @Daniel Wright – Right off the bat, let me disabuse you of any notion that I thought to insult you with any hint not given that you would or did shirk your duties. Had that entered my mind, I am quite certain I would know of it, and it did not cross that threshold.

            Your salute is hereby returned, your thanks having been welcomed, as you might rightly imagine.

            The reason I took you as having been drafted (and I attach no shame to such a status) was that the years you mentioned spanned two, the length of time for which a draftee was obligated to serve actively. I am, as yet, uninformed that an enlistment could span only two years of active duty.

            The pertinence of my having mentioned protesters to the Vietnam Conflict was and is in response to your having detailed your own experience with same. We had similar experiences, though certainly not identical. To this day, people still tell me how I somehow lost that “war,” not realizing that, to lose a “war,” at least one battle must be lost. As Americans never lost a battle during the Vietnam Conflict, it would be impossible to lose a “war” which never was.

            Not since the War Between the States/Civil War/War of Northern Aggression had any member of my family served in combat. That distinguishes me in my family’s history (along with a few other exploits best left unexplored and unexposed, I suppose).

            I returned from overseas lean, mean and, having served my time as enlisted, with a fierce loyalty to those I subsequently commanded, a trait somewhat less than appreciated by my superior officers, but apparently respected by those in my units. My respect for civilians gets earned on an individual basis, as my employers have found both to their dismay and, eventually, mine. In educated dissection of law, those employing me have found that I tell them all perspectives on the truth that I am able to fathom, not always to their desire to hear, but I will not sacrifice my integrity for a buck, though I’m always ripe for new challenges.

            Hope the above give you a clearer picture, and I am always open to questions, though I’m also open to letting others know if I haven’t the answer.

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          • Patriot068

            Lol
            Ide get a couple of large dogs & make saddle bags to triple the amount I can carry

          • Daniel Wright

            How about a jeep or a Hummer. The latter will carry a pallet of ammo.

          • Pariot068,
            The federal government has now called state Guard units to combat, which was not the original intent. So the Guard is now useless. But I do not think that the military in this country would side with the government under dire circumstances. But that is why this crap is sneaking up on us and we are not fighting back.

          • Patriot068

            Jerry
            I couldn’t agree more. My son is in the Military & him & most of his buddies would tell Obozo to shove it up his a-hole & join sides with us! & that includes all their hardware as well too.

          • Drawer22

            @Patriot068 – Absolutely agreed on all points. Not responding to unlawful orders seemed to be best brought into focus during the emergency of Hurricane Katrina, when elements led by non-commissioned officers (NCO) in the National Guard refused to disarm Americans. The counterpoint was law enforcement thugs videoed bashing a little old lady with an unloaded revolver, cylinder opened. As a result of that, and having been both military and LEO (with a fair amount of decent self-awareness thrown in!), I have far greater confidence in military units than those composed of law enforcement officers (LEO).

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          • Patriot068

            I agree 100%
            Did you read/Hear about the reserve marine Tank company ( delta company) made up of reservists & 99.9% were cops.
            Each tank batallion has 3 AD components & usually 1 reserve to bring it up to 100% manpower. This saves the govt from having to have 4 full time companies. To make a long story short the Delta troop ( cops) went out of control while A,B,C troop went by the rules D troop went off the deep end with bloodlust & their M1A Abrams gave them the mighty power & adrenaline rush. They shot up towns, people, ( innocent people) needless to say they were pulled back & the CO was given a royal ass reaming & alit of UCMJ articles came from this!!
            I used to trust copsv& not all are bad but slot ( younger ones) let the badges power go to their heads!!!
            As a retired military ( disabled ) & FF,EMT I know life is to short & can be snuffed out in an instance, those goons in D troop got s sick kick out of murdering innocents & loved it!! Then after the war were supposed to trust these same individuals with our lives & safety?? Ide say that over 75% shouldn’t even be allowed to wear a badge

          • Patriot068,
            I believe that if Obama would declare martial law he would have few takers on enforcement. That is unless it would be for some other reason than guns or just plain illegal force. I also do not think he is even thinking that. But I do not believe he is a very impressive leader. Give me almost anyone else, less Hillary.

          • Drawer22

            @Patriot068 – Militias, both organized (National Guard) and unorganized (the body of the People), are already formed. To some extent, it might be argued that the more recent militias have been and are being formed right here on numerous blogs, and that is a nascent cause I applaud. Other unorganized (ie, non-governmental) militias are formed in every possession of the United States of America, though they are, often enough, difficult with which to make contact.

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          • Patriot068

            Drawer
            I agree they are a closed group most of them.
            Most don’t advertise as a militia group to stay off the Fed radar. Most go by some search & rescue group. Others are out in the open.
            I recently have been approached by 3 diff groups all represent different types.
            You have to be invited or a friend of a friend invite you. Also no 1st or last names used. You or the militia group pick a name for you to go bye.
            Also their is a swath of different people and backgrounds in these groups. Ex military, AD military, EMTs, FFs Cops, buisnesmen, BP, ATF, customs, teachers etc whom all have day jobs but don’t like how our country is being driven into the ground by A-holes in DC.
            These militia groups volunteer for disaster relief, Search & Rescue and do good deeds for their communities.

        • dickG

          “The second amendment doesn’t specifically cover modern ammunition. It didn’t yet exist”
          .
          Here is the answer:

          • Daniel Wright

            The second amendment didn’t specifically mention gunpowder,patches or lead balls. Are you saying that only muskets were allowed by the second amendment and that they could only be used as clubs. There is no mention of bayonets either do you think they were also not legal to bear? Or then again, are we both misinterpreting the other’s words?

      • WilliamHarrington

        These people care not for the Constitution, their only desire is complete domination of Americans which we all know must begin with gun confiscation. This has been the signature of all despots, first disarm the people.

        • William,
          That is what history tells us. Or have we forgotten dictators? I have not. They existed for years in the Middle East and some still do. Then there is North Korea and China, as well as Russia. I can’t think of all of them so someone will likely ad others. Ah yes, let’s not forget Castro and the others in south and central America.

        • Daniel Wright

          You can argue with people like rx7pj ’till your blue in the face and get nowhere. “You can’t argue with a sick mind” (Joe Walsh)

        • MrJackpack37 .

          Obviously these pack of cry babies don’t know a thing about Hitler.When TSHTF, they all be wishing they had guns and ammo. I’ll be glad to give them some of my ammo. Right!
          Straight up their asses.

      • Patriot068

        EXACTLY!! What part of ” shall not be infringed”! Those idiots don’t understand; banning or restricting how / where you get your ammo sounds infringing to me;! Next they will want all of us reloaders to report how much ammo we make in a week or month ! Or amount of gunpowder,bullets, brass & primers you can have or purchase!! Those on the left should WTF – up , seriously!

        • Patriot068,
          We see liberals and federal judges who are mostly liberal trying to determine “Intent” when it is what something says specifically. That was the intent and always will be. If you ask me how tall I am and I answer, 5′-10″, do you understand that or do you fish for my “real intent”? Perhaps I am lying and am really 5′-9″ or 5′-11″? Or am I really 5′-10″ after all. No, I specifically said 5′-10″.

    • Rx7pj

      Horseshit

      • the kev

        Horseshit? All of ovomits minnions. Penalty? Treason.

        • Rx7pj

          More horseshit from a a rightie minnion

          • Bloodaxe

            You dumfuk . You can’t spell shiit, your grammar is pitiful and you’re obviously quite stupid. Please go away.

          • Rx7pj

            AS I said, More horseshit from a a rightie minnion

          • Daniel Wright

            BLAH BLAH BLAH. STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rx7pj

            BLAH BLAH BLAH. STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Daniel Wright

            DADDY, rx7pj IS COPYING ME! BITE ME TROLL!!!!

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of correct punctuation.

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          • the kev

            What was it they said in the movie animal house?
            EAT ME!!
            And yer horseshit too.

          • Rx7pj

            Oh wow, typical response form an idiot

          • the kev

            Ugly mole that eats me. And horse shit.
            an ugly mole is just that, an ugly mole. Planted by the dnc (do not care) party to distract from the subject. So ugly mole. Hows it fell to be dumd as a slug and blind as a mole? Or can’t you figure it out cause yer brain dead.

          • Daniel Wright

            He/she is also a democrat LEMMING. Willing to follow the Dems over the cliff if ordered to do so.

          • the kev

            Nice description. LEMMING. LOL.
            in the end just an ugle mole.

          • Rx7pj

            Ah another brain dead rightie minnion.

          • Daniel Wright

            Another demonic lemming.

          • Rx7pj

            demonic????????? are you really that stupid???????

          • Daniel Wright

            Not stupid. Observant would the correct term.

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of English spelling, capitalization, and punctuation.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • the kev

            Your free. Free to be a mole. Free to be stupid. Free to de a liberal jerk. Free to be an ass. Free to your delusional opinion. Free to leave the country you hate. Free to breath our air. Free to be re -educated.
            Not free to enter my space.
            not free to my respect.
            not free to be an American.
            Now. Is your food free?
            Is your healthcare free?
            Is your cell phone free?
            Is your ride free? Now we know this all to be true.
            So your free to…………….
            EAT ME!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rx7pj

            Thanks for proving my point , mohamad.

          • Daniel Wright

            What point did he prove? I see you biting the hand that feeds you. I see you hating the country that doesn’t throw you in a gulag for speaking your mind. I see an ungrateful old buzzard who doesn’t see a good deal when it’s right in front of him. I see someone who can’t spell Muhammad correctly. I also see someone who knows exactly zero about Islam. Muhammad.

          • the kev

            Let me repete myself. Your sorry excuse for a granny hill, dumb ass slug and blind as a mole follower is pitful. To say the least. you are fucing free to leave this country. Anytime your ready. So pack your ass with that horse shit you carry around wit ya. Liberal cowboy. Or little liberal cowboy. Or ugliest mole. Or piece of shit. Or non patriot. Brotherhood boy.
            Sheria law is a waiting for ya. Oh, and I carved your RX name into a long rifle round. Ment only for your sorry excuse for a liberal rat.
            liberal asshole. POS

          • Rx7pj

            And yet more proof of your ignorance and stipidity, good job mohamad.

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of spelling, even if it’s just the name of the founder of Islam, as written in English, as well as English words. While you’re studying English, please ask your ESL tutor to educate you in English punctuation.

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          • the kev

            Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Liberal brotherhood fool! Get out!!!!!!!!
            You do not belong here.
            Move to Iran! !!!!
            Right at home for an ugly mole. Un American jack ass. Horse shit holder. Granny hill bitch. Isis lover. Join them!!!!
            Friends finnally for you.
            POS!!!!

          • Rx7pj

            A ND more proof, how old are you anyway ?? You act like you’re 6.
            POS. MOHAMAD

          • the kev

            Yes. I am the devil Mohammed. Spell it right. Along with all your other misspelled words. You liberal idiot. Do I have to bitch slap your horse shit ass again ?
            Gettig real tired of waitin for ugly mole over here in my sandy desert.
            Go get yer gun . Hold that post and shut the fuck up. Or leave this great country. Or just
            keep on sackin out, Sleepin with granny hill in yer wet dreams. Suckubus.

          • Rx7pj

            Excuse me 5. FO CHILD

          • the kev

            Fu. fu. fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu. Fu.
            Fuck off my little girl bitch.

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of spelling, even if it’s just the name of the founder of Islam, as written in English.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of punctuation in English usage.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • Daniel Wright

            No, it is a proper response to a Communist, American hating MORON!!!! If I, (as a conservative capitalist) lived in a Communist country and wasn’t stopped, I would immigrate to a free country. You Obviously disagree with the American system. What is keeping you here? It sure isn’t patriotism.

          • Daniel Wright

            You will do or say anything in support of your church,the democrat party.

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of correct spelling in English.

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      • Combatvet52

        It’s on your PLATE you must be one of Obummers favorite AK

        • Rx7pj

          Your still are and will ALWAYS be a complete idiot.

          • Bloodaxe

            The correct way to say that would be as follows: You’re still and will always be a complete idiot.
            You’re welcome.

          • Combatvet52

            Just like you HS AK

          • Daniel Wright

            I have already proven without a doubt that you are a Communist. If you hate America that much. LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rx7pj

            You continues to prove you’re an idiot. LEAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Daniel Wright

            I love America. What reason would I have to leave. I’m sure that If your side takes over that will prompt millions of freedom lovers to migrate from the new Soviet Union. But that hasn’t happened yet ………..Lemming.

          • Daniel Wright

            You first,Commie.

          • Drawer22

            @Rx7pj – If you’re going to post in English on an English-speaking blog, please learn English, inclusive of grammar and punctuation.

            De Oppresso LIber

          • Daniel Wright

            You have no proof backing that statement. On the other hand You reveal more and more evidence every day showing you to be a Communist and a traitor to your country.

      • Daniel Wright

        You again!!! I see that you troll conservative websites spewing your hate for your neighbors. Contrary to your belief we don’t live in the country of,by,and for the government. The people are supreme here.

        • Rx7pj

          Are you still around????
          I live in a country for and by the people it’s called America, where the hell do you live??????? Get off your hate wagon

          • Daniel Wright

            If that is true then why do you support the oppressive policies of the Obama administration? PS I’ll never leave…………NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Daniel Wright

            I live in the country that you hate. The U.S.A,

      • Daniel Wright

        Yes that is what you spew every day. At least you are willing to admit it.

    • Bloodaxe

      Too bad we can’t send them all packing to North Korea. The Dear Leader would have them all standing in front of anti-aircraft guns.

    • Legatus legionis

      We need to convene a people’s Grand Jury and indict these individuals for treason. Yes treason because they are using their law making power to usurp the 2nd Amendment Rights of our citizens. This then is liken to waging war on the people. We need to get serious otherwise the Democrats will prevail and a second Revolution will be ignited. To avoid bloodshed, we must indict, prosecute, try them, and then hang them in the town squares of their home state as an example for future generations.

      • Combatvet52

        ( and then hang them in the town squares of their home state is an example.) sounds real good to me I would love to build the hanging platform, I can still swing a hammer and use a saw.

        • Drawer22

          @Combatvet52 – I’m more of an “end game” kinda guy. May I pull at least one of the levers?

          Sic semper tyrannis.

          • Combatvet52

            Welcome to the club………brother Vet

          • Drawer22

            @Combatvet52 – Good to feel like we’ll be home soon, one way or t’other!

            Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

  • Rob

    Cavemen would have stoned the liberals to death for trying to ban sharp sticks,

  • George Cahonna

    Liberals, introduce all the Bills you want…Push comes to shove, your Bills are only pieces of poorly written toilet paper…There is only “ONE” piece of paper that counts, & thats OUR Constitution. Best not screw with it.

  • drofelkcahs

    Guns are so expensive now because “Saturday Night Special” laws drastically cut back importation of so-called poorly made imports which held down the prices charged by the domestic gun manufacturers.
    Now the elitists are working on making affordable ammunition impossible to find (sort of like affordable health care).

    • Bloodaxe

      They’ve already done it with .22 ammo. Try to find some Stingers or Yellow Jackets.

  • peanut9244

    I have been harping the second amendment to those moronic democrats for so long now I just do it to anyone without thinking.
    I keep telling the idiots that it is not the weapon that kills people but the jackass pulling the trigger.
    I had one simpleton say to me what is next to be banned bat, 2×4’s his response was if that is what it takes to keep people from killing other people then yes. This moron never gave it a thought that cars kill, trucks kill, trains kill, he even said that you would stand a better chance of surviving a plane crash for 6 miles up.
    So much for the mindset of the left.

    • Bloodaxe

      The leftist rats want the entire population completely disarmed and reduced to servility. Their idea of a perfect society is North Korea. Or maybe Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge- a gigantic death camp.

  • 19don36

    All this gun and ammunition control stuff, saying it causes killings, is like saying pencils cause stupid bills to be written. It is people, idiots!

    • Gary Daniel

      I love that analogy! Can I use that?

      • 19don36

        Sure, Gary! I don’t copyright my musings.

        • Gary Daniel

          Thanx, that is the perfect analogy

    • Daniel Wright

      But public schools do cause ignorant people to get into public office. also private ones like Harvard law school.

      • 19don36

        That is primarily because the American electorate does not listen to what the people who are running for office tell them, and they don’t look at the records of people who have been in public service. If they made dumb decisions as mayor, or state senator, they probably won’t get smart just because we send them to Washington.

        • dickG

          Nah.
          .
          Once you get to Washington, you are the smartest person in the World!
          .
          Just ask any of them that have been there for more than 2 terms! And by then they know what’s best for you.
          .
          So just STFU.
          .
          .
          .

          • 19don36

            If that is true, as POGO used to say, “We have met the enemy and he is us!” We are the ones that send them back, term after term, so who is to blame?

          • dickG

            Indeed!
            .

        • Daniel Wright

          In Obama’s case there is very little anyone knows about the true details of his life before he started his political career. That, combined with the things that (are) known,makes it very strange that anyone who cares about America could even consider voting for him, let alone show the loyalty and adoration bordering on worship his supporters have. I can’t understand why otherwise intelligent people could be so mesmerized by such an obvious flimflam man. I guess that there (is) a sucker born every minute.

          • 19don36

            It is particularly painful as he told us what he would do, and he has done it. We were warned he would transform America, and he certainly has. I despair, as you do, that our fellow Americans are so inattentive, or stupid to be taken in so easily. Do you ever watch the Jesse Watters segments on Bill O’Reilly? My wife thinks them funny, I think them harbingers of doom.

  • Lizard

    F—- All Democrats // Hands off our Ammo and Guns /// Go spend time and money on something worthwhile Azzholes

  • Ronney

    The problem here gentleman is we have so much inner city garbage, that want everything handed to them, and will only vote Democrat. I would be willing to bet every post here is pretty much from a rural area. What we have to do is start talking to people in our own communities and get them to vote. I know whole family’s here that will not vote because they think it is rigged or will not do any good it is our responsibility to convince them otherwise. This Bitch that just introduced this law, look where she is from upstate New Jersey. She probably couldn’t tell if water was boiling on the stove.

  • peanut9244

    I just discovered through congress.gov that this idiot has introduced it to congress but is has not been read. Therefore this bill, which will be attached to the human trafficking bill of the same number, has not actually been read on the floor.

  • Joe Toland

    I don’t understand why anyone would vote ro take away anything that could protect themselves and their families. Not to mention taking away a lot of peoples way to feed their families meat. And don’t get on here and say poeple don’t hunt for food, here where I live a lot of people do. If they think it will stop bad people from getting guns and ammo, they are mistaken. These people are afraid of something, and I think they are worried the citizens don’t like the laws they are passing and might rise up and do something about it. JMHO

  • the kev

    2016 is commin. The democraps up for election are doomed. The rino,s are also doomed. Were stuck with mitch the bitch, I’m sure his health will not be in his favor for 5 more years. Dirty harry will be gone. Replaced with a patriot. And ovomit will be gone along with his executive orders. Things will be ok in 2016. Mark these words. It WILL happen.

    • Joe Toland

      I PRAY YOU ARE RIGHT.

      • the kev

        So do all of us.

    • Daniel Wright

      I believe that If the Republicans win then Obama will declare martial law before inauguration day. I guess we will have to wait and see.

      • the kev

        Really?
        Are you dumb as a slug and blind as a mole?

        • Daniel Wright

          Who are you talking to? It doesn’t say.

      • the kev

        Sorry. I misread your message. Lol. I thought you were an ugly mole. Sorry.
        my mistake.
        The Kev.

      • the kev

        He (ovomit) has no power. He will lose to the people.

  • Timothy Toroian

    …shall not be infringed. Hey Dems check what “shall not” means. Does not include maybes, or in my opinions, etc. It means SHALL NOT!

  • USCBIKER

    And it will go down 2 to 1 in the vote.

  • Proud US vet/American

    Stock up while you can Patriots, because when the people don’t have guns and ammunition, the Government will!
    This is another step to disarmament of the populace and another step towards full blown socialism.
    Remember these words, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall NOT be infringed.” 2nd Amendment, U.S. Constitution. Bans and restrictions on ammo is a direct assault on the 2A any way you look at it. Why? Without ammo, our guns are useless and become no better than a stick as a weapon. Make no mistakes about this, our guns, ammo and freedom are under a constant and brutal attack from this POTUS and his administration, the AG’s office, Congress, Senate and even members of the Republican party.
    Buy up all the ammo you can now! Guns, survival food, medical supplies, cold weather clothing, gas, propane, and items used for bartering like cigarettes, alcohol, matches, gas, and even illicit drugs will be in high demand and will bring a high price on the black market when the SHTF. This scenario is coming faster and sooner than many people are admitting-don’t get caught unprepared, or, you WILL wind up in one of FEMA’s reeducation camps.
    The #1 thing to watch for is the banking industry. Watch the stock markets. When these two things start doing crazy things, start pulling your money out of your accounts and safety deposit boxes and start preparing your family for rough times. Get rid of your paper money-buy silver and gold, stock up on all coinage now!
    Obama and his henchmen are! They are ready to enslave this country for the Muslims and the illegals to take over.
    I know, I’ve lost my mind, i’ve heard it for years. But, I will be and am prepared to fight for my freedom and my families. we will be free, have food, protection and medical supplies when needed. If this doesn’t happen what have I lost? I am prepared for any earthquake, storm, fire or, pandemic that may come along. Now is that crazy? Having your families safety and well being taken care of no matter what happens?
    GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

  • wildeagleone

    I hope every one of these ash wholes get in a jam where an armed citizen could help them but decides not to because the armed citizen recognizes the victim and just keeps walking. These liberals believe criminals only attack the other persons, families and etc

  • Varmint~

    Leave our guns to hell alone and leave our ammo to hell alone! The media and liberals, one in the same along with now a bunch of spineless republicans refer to “gun violence”, you dumb asses we have “criminal violence” so go after the ones doing the crime and leave us law abiding patriots to hell alone! But, oh I forgot you want to control us! Go to hell!

  • wmagg

    Is it just me or does anyone else see that Nearly ALL of the proposed gun control garbage seem to come from those who live in states with the highest gun crime rates and the most restrictive gun control laws.

  • coolman11

    What does it matter if people by ammo online they’re probably tracking bulk purchases anyway.

  • Bob Markle

    NO

  • The Fox

    Hitler would have loved the 31 nut jobs, as Hitler disarmed the public to become a dictator. These Demon-rats have to know that a armed man is a citizen a unarmed my is a slave, so said John Adam and he sure was right, of course the left wing demon-rats want to be the masters of the plantation of all races and colors and they seem to be well on there way, so kick everyone of them out of office, the sooner the better for this 12 year Marine Vet.

  • ReaperHD

    The start of the Government take over of the internet. This is no different than you having to tell the government how many guns you have if every time you buy bulk ammo because you like to shoot the purchase has to be reported. Any Avid Shooter uses the internet to purchase ammo when they find a good deal and it’s not the Governments Business if I buy bulk when I find a good deal. It’s time to end this BS with these butt wipes trying to Destroy the Constitution and the American People even if it means Seperate North and South Governed American Countries.

  • John Hyland

    I may have said this before, but the ammo ban philosophy is but a page from the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D- MA.) several decades past. He said “if we can’t ban firearms we will simply ban ammo or price and tax it out of reach almost everyone!”

    • Daniel Wright

      They could also use the Michael Moore method. Brass cartridges weren’t mentioned in the second.(see my post below). I have also heard of some advocating that ammunition being reclassified as an explosive requiring the people to obtain a federal explosives license to get it. That license would necessarily be nearly impossible to get.

  • Daniel Wright

    I can see why these despots do what they do. They consider themselves royalty in stead of public servants. I see their next try as using the argument that cartridges aren’t specifically mentioned in the second amendment so they aren’t covered by it. That is the Michael Moore method.

  • omega2

    One look at the ORIGINAL WRITER of this CRAP is over due for her rocking chair in an OLD FOLKS HOME! This just shows how sick the DUMBORATS REALLY ARE! They had better wake up to the JADE HELM 15 the fore runner of MARSHAL LAW by BOZO BEFORE ELECTIONS IN 2016. ALSO I RECOMMEND THAT ALL PATRIOTIC AMERICANS BUY THE BOOK “CLINTON CASH” AND READ ALL ABOUT THE SELLING OF AMERICA TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES FOR THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER! WAKE UP FOLKS!

    • Daniel Wright

      If Shrillary wins the election there will be no need for marshal law. If she loses then Obama will move before inauguration day 2017. That is my prediction.

  • Timothy Barringer

    This has to stop, I truly belive that if this continues we will have a revolution in this country

    • Daniel Wright

      The left will never stop.Get ready,it’s coming.

  • danny kimbrel

    I am certain, IF they shove this through, that there will be massive robberies of armories and manufacturing facilities. I for one won’t be taking part, but i will enjoy the thought of our patriots being very well armed.

  • Tomcat01

    Here we go again. The ammunition they tried to ban ISN’T armor piercing. The left will try ANYTHING to promote their agenda.

  • Bryan W. Carpenter

    To limit availability of ammunition is an Infringement of a GOD given right to keep and bear arms. Those who propose to “infringe” upon our rights should be removed from office and bared from ever holding public office again.

    • the kev

      Vote!

  • Mo

    The next time these 31 liberals come up for reelection, they need to be sent packing for home because they do not understand that America stands for Freedom and not oppression as they would impose upon us.

  • Joken Joe

    Dims not supporting the constitution, but supporting communist ideology. No surprise there seeing as how their better than everyone else.

    • John Gillis

      (in Droopy’s voice) You know what? Liberal Democrats are anal retentives!

  • Earn nest

    We need to make some laws that punish people knowingly trying to circumvent the Constitution through regulation and law much as it’s illegal to promote the violent overthrow of the Republic.

  • Philip Warden

    time to take action calling all vet’s!!! and on duty military!! you swore to protect the Constitution. from all enemies of the Constitution.. WE THE PEOPLE will back you. Please save these Great united states,

  • Michael

    Every last one that proposes such as this should be targeted for recall and/or defeated at the polls! Let’s get a constitutional amendment to limit to 2 terms max, they be required to abide by all laws they pass, they can’t vote themselves a raise, and they get no retirement for time in office.

  • John Green

    do not vote for a Democrat

    • dickG

      or a RINO

      • John Gillis

        They are miserable traitors all!

  • Ronald Hagler

    Vote, Vote, Vote…that is the only way to rid Congress, and America, of these traitorous socialists who wish nothing less than an entirely subservient citizenry here in the United States. The 2nd Amendment was written to protect each of us, gun-owners and gun-haters alike, from just such a government as we are experiencing today. Any attempt to “infringe” on the ownership, baring and use of firearms is in direct violation of the fiber, intent and writing within the 2nd Amendment. The only purpose our founding fathers, persons with far more insight and experience with tyrannical governments than any who have lived since them, wrote the 2nd Amendment was to insure that we, the people, retained the power and facilities to protect each and every other part of our Constitution! Should you not believe that, then you are a fool and could be the deciding factor which destroys those freedoms to which you think you are entitled.

    JFK was a Democrat who knew why the Constitution was written in the manner it was and did nothing to dissolve the core of freedoms we enjoy as a result of the Constitution. Those Democrats who followed him have been nothing short of socialistic in their “welfare” programs, their liberal interpretation of the Constitutional and their constant attack on parts of the Constitution they deem “outdated”. Once the 2nd Amendment has been “dismantled”, what power is left to prevent these same zealots from destroying any, and all, parts of the Constitution? Whether you own a firearm, do not own a firearm or simply find firearms disgusting, it is imperative that you not act out of ignorance and back all legislation to ban certain firearms and ammunition. Supporting the 2nd Amendment is not simply supporting firearms, it is protecting each and every part of the Constitution, without which we all soon become “SUBJECTS”! Is this really what the United States needs?

    • John Gillis

      JFK was the ONLY Kennedy I actually respected. And I will continue to vote against these socialists until we defeat them at the polls or the vote is nullified by a tyrannical government who in turn tries to collect your firearms and confiscate your belongings.

  • andrew

    When are these Lame-Brains going to get the message ? !! Guns, and their respective ammunition are not the issue at all… It is the lawless lunatics, that can get hold of Guns, etc. with impunity, and No law written will EVER stop this…

  • Charlie

    Those 31 are not democrats they are socialist . Socialist have always wanted to have population control. With an armed population the socialist always would have a very difficult time of population control. Therefore the socialist are always coming up with plans to squelch the armed citizens. This plan of theirs is to make the gun owning citizens ammo poor therefore making the citizens guns inoperable . Do these socialist actually think that the internet was always where ammo was acquired ? Do these socialist actually believe that the agenda they support is supported by the majority of American citizens ? Do these socialist all 31 of them think the seats of political public servitude are seats of power ? The seats are seats of representation of We the People with granted powers via our constitution. Do these 31 socialist think that they are above the laws of our nation ? Richard Nixon proved that nobody in our nation is above the laws of our nation.

    • dickG

      Even if YOU don’t reload, save your brass!

  • Steve Reed

    As usual “dipshit democrats” led by assehole harry reid and diane frankenstein

  • amigo

    Guess what Boner will join them

  • Drake Travis

    they want us all unarmed, uneducated, voting left, living in rows, watching their programs, believing diversity … so that we believe nothing but what they say.

    • dickG

      But it makes governing so much easier that way, doesn’t it? So much more efficient.
      .
      That’s why our Founders warned us about “too much government”!

      • Drake Travis

        DG – you got it right brother!

  • Scott Campbell

    If they want guns banned, first they should get rid of their armed guards, most of whom carry automatic pistols and rifles. Since they want Americans unarmed, they need to lead by example. They need to fire all their guards, give up ALL their weapons including, guns; knives; sticks; mace, etc. No bullet proof vests, either.

    • John Gillis

      First, try to sell this to Rosie O’Donnell or Michael Bloomberg. They’ll blather about their elitist needs, naturally, while we, the Great Unwashed, should look to our local police departments for our own welfare, i.e. let the professionals handle it.

  • snowyriver

    To stop civilians from buying unlimited supplies.. Just how many supplies does anyone need when the government becomes so tyrannical that they need to be removed.

  • usncb

    The ammo grabbers have no idea what is going on ! They do not know about any of the components or nomenclature of a cartridge. They only know what some uninformed idiot has told them ,,, similar to the global warming fiasco,,,,,, and we know who THEY are. DUMMORATS ! Here is what Gen. PATTON said about politicians, “Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth,,,,,Liberal democrats are the lowest form of POLITICIANS”. Stated in 1945 to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

  • njdvorak

    As far as I’m concerned all of these 31 Democrats are nothing but traitors for breaking their oath of office. It is my belief that all traitors including Obama should be taken out back of the Capital building and executed.

  • Mark Owen

    If by the grace of God a Republican ends up in the White House, then all the appointed Muslims in our Gov’t. should be run out of town too! This country was built on good Christian values NOT ISLAMIC Bullshit!

  • Dave Dittemore

    We’d rather our police not be killed by armor piercing bullets, thank you.

  • QuisPercusit

    Boycott all things and Places associated with New Jersey I mean every thing you could ever think of even casinos, beaches and hookers, any thing made in or shipped thru Jersey. same thing with the other 31 Socialist democrat hell holes sponsoring her sycophantic assault on the second amendment.. Cripple the New Jersey economy before she gets her bill out of committee..

  • alphinostrum

    These Elitist Democrats are so scared of the Citizens of these United States, that they are constantly wanting to disarm them…..there’s an explanation for this: “If you constantly lie to people and defraud them, you naturally wouldn’t want them armed, now would you?”

  • Ronald Hagler

    Those of you who hate guns, hate gun owners and believe the 2nd Amendment to be old, out-dated and obsolete, please step back and view the forest and not just one tree. Take your eyes off of the flowering Dogwood and notice the Oaks, Elms, Cedars and other trees around it. The 2nd Amendment is only but a few pen strokes older than is the 1st Amendment, yet you support the 1st entirely. Why?

    2ND AMENDMENT:

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

    In reference to the 2nd Amendment, do you believe that the men responsible for bringing their “Muskets” to battle and sending the British Army back to England were supposed to have shown up with muskets and powder, but no lead balls (ammunition)? Is that how you interpret “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”? If not, then why do you support the banning of certain bullets by our present DNC representatives in D.C.?

    1ST AMENDMENT:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    In reference to the 1st Amendment, what is the difference between “the right of the people peaceably to assemble” (1st) and “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”(2nd)? As they are both rights granted to “the people”, why would anyone loudly proclaim their rights in one (1st) while disgustingly denouncing the other (2nd)?

    The case of “gun-control”, ammunition banning, and any other draft to infringe upon the right of Americans to “keep and bear” arms is unconstitutional and must be dealt with as such. Remember: if we, the people, let our government weaken or destroy the 2nd Amendment, what power is left to us to stop them from doing the same thing to other amendments, or, worse, the entire Constitution?

    • dickG

      The answer to your “why” questions lies in Liber-Logic.

  • 1MarianneD

    I believe the only groups that keep ISIS and other terror-loving groups under control in America, is the NRA and people who own weapons.

  • Robert Myles

    I live in New Yorkistan and remember when “pothole Al Demato” introduced legislation to increase the tax on Ammunition by 1000% this is the way Dumbocrat’s think. If they can’t gt our guns though the idiot in our Governor’s mansion is doing all he can to rid those “Evil” Assault Weapon’s. We have Unsafe Act Part one and Part two waiting in the wings which would require a background check run by the NYS Police before the purchase went thru. Also all ‘Bulk Ammo sales” they will decide what is Bulk will be monitored and you can probably expect visit by the State Police. Out harassing law abiding citizen’s while thugs hold up the local 7-11

  • LARRY JOHNSON

    **#Folks- we must make sure isis & rapists have the names of the 31 Democrats that wants to keep you from defending your families –& that the 31 doesn’t have armed guards protecting their slimey butts!

  • Patrick

    NAME THESE TURKEYS ,PUT THERE NAME OUT SO ALL CAN SEE ,MAKE PUBLIC !!!