Toronto Mayor Questions Why People Want Guns

Toronto Mayor John Tory led a call for more gun control soon after a shooting that left two dead and 13 injured this week in Canada’s largest city.

Toronto Police are investigating the shooting which happened late Sunday night on Danforth Avenue in the crowded Greektown enclave where a man with a handgun opened fire, killing an 18-year-old woman and a 10-year-old girl. The suspected killer, identified by the Ontario Special Investigations Unit as Faisal Hussain, 29, was dead at the end of the incident, while 13 others, ranging in age from 17 to 59 years old, were sent to area hospitals, reportedly shot.

“Why does anyone in this city need to have a gun at all?” Tory, elected to lead the city in 2014, asked a city council meeting on Monday, saying he would press both provincial leaders and those in Ottawa for more regulations on firearms.

As previously reported by Guns.com, Canada’s firearm laws are strict, with a possession and acquisition license, or PAL, needed to legally own a firearm. With the license comes extensive background checks, mandatory training, and letters of reference as well as about $200 in fees.

Further, there is no such thing as Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground for justifiable homicide in Canada. No guarantee of a right to keep and bear arms. No concealed carry other than for narrow exceptions. The government basically said gun ownership is for target shooting and hunting only, with many types of guns popular in the U.S. highly restricted in the country — which require another degree of licensing. Nonetheless, underground gun factories have surfaced in several provinces as a means for criminals to duck regulations.

Within hours of the Toronto shooting, Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts took to social media to argue that 90 percent of crime guns recovered in Canada came from the U.S, which is refuted by figures from the ATF which held that about 45 percent of the recovered firearms checked through that agency tracked back to U.S. retailers and another 30 percent to foreign countries.

source: guns.com

  • Greg Wheten

    Tory knows nothing of what he spews on gun and gun control. If you want the true facts go to CSSA WEBSITE.better yet join up its cheap and you will be kept up to date on gun facts.

    • Daniel F. Melton

      Liberals break out in hives when confronted with facts.

  • Jon

    Ask all of Faisal’s victims.

    • Daniel F. Melton

      I wonder how many if the survivors are for more stringent gun control laws now? How many are contemplating acquiring weapons for self defence?

  • David Rice

    well people are getting tired of the socialist/communist in canada government where the criminals is the only one with guns. an they seem to back the criminal just like it is happening the U.S. where the demorats think the criminal has more rights than the victim .

    • GRA

      YEs you have a point but they positive side of all that is they are ALL expendable.

    • SmithWinston6478

      Canada is a liability to America like a tag-along little brother we have to protect and provide for whenever ‘it’ hits the fan.

      • GRA

        But the problem is that Canada is more British and anything else. They’re basically the Brits of North America. Always have been and always will be. True they are their own country but they’re still Brits regardless and it’s Britain that has to care of them even though they are indeed a liability to the USA.

  • kenbarber

    he most ,likely has armed security.

    • SmithWinston6478

      No doubt about it.

    • Bama Bill

      Try getting near any of these politicians. They live in apartments that have armed security. Then the go to the “Cottage, Up North” for the weekend. Which is on an island around the Georgian Bay. With “Armed Security” surrounding their island. So, why would they need a gun to protect themselves? Go the California, and try “Dropping by” to see Nancy Pelosi, tell me how your “VIsit”, went, please.

  • John Siemens

    1. It IS a God given right to protect yourself. This idiot wants to be God and change your God given right. Do NOT bring a knife to a gunfight.
    2. Those in power want more power and total control of their subjects lives.
    3. The police cannot protect you. They investigate the crime AFTER it happened. Unfortunately you are DEAD.
    4. Where were the Good Guy’s with guns when they were needed? Only the bad guy had a gun because laws do not apply to criminals. Good guys obey the laws no matter how idiotic the laws are. People died and were hurt because of this law but don’t expect tyrannical politicians (or Shannon Watts) to admit that!

    • SmithWinston6478

      When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

      • Daniel F. Melton

        But they do string pretty crime scene tape, place evidence markers, and mark the fallen the victims with chalk outlines, for all the good that does.

  • Low Cover

    Tory, you are a REAL DAss

  • GRA

    Only a Brit with the last name of “Tory” is stupid enough to have to ask such a silly-assed question. I bet he’s a gun owner too but one that thinks only the elite and elected elite would have firearms. Idiot. The easy answer is because owning a firearm protects us from ignorant liberal fools such as himself.

    • Daniel F. Melton

      George Orwell:

      “That rifle on the wall of the labourer’s cottage
      or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see
      that it stays there.”

      Sadly, the british and commonwealth governments have rescinded those symbols of democracy.

  • snuffum

    Because it is our God given right you socialist pig. Also our constitution guaranties it

  • Bob

    I hope they get more strict laws, then we will have a place to send folks like David Hogg so they can be happy. And then when the murder rate goes up we can just smile at them.

  • Patrick Feeney

    Toronto Mayor John Tory is dumber than dirt. He wants to disarm the decent, honest citizens while the criminals will still have guns. Tory is pro-criminal!

    • SmithWinston6478

      Agreed on all 3 counts. Well said, Mr. Feeney.

  • SmithWinston6478

    Hey Tory ! If any of the helpless people in Toronto had been able to defend themselves, sand-muzzie Faisal Hussein might not have been able to destroy two young lady Canadians and change the lives of 13 other people. You are a coward protected by armed guards. That’s why Americans look upon Canada as a tag-along little brother we have to protect and provide for when it all hits the fan. You are a liability to us.

    Human interaction falls into two categories without exception; reason or force. Responsible armed citizens do not seek to limit interaction with reason, only interaction by force. An ‘equalizer’ makes a 90 lb. co-ed or young mother home alone equal to a 280 lb. thug or inbred jihadi caveman. Gun-grabbers know that as well as anybody, but they can’t control an armed citizenry. They are willing to sacrifice safety of the many – for control over them. That is why the American 2nd Amendment is a most civilized act.

    Making good people helpless doesn’t make bad people harmless. What we need is stupidity control. Most of the nutcase shooters are liberals, democrats, leftists by any other name, or chromosome-damaged, socially-retarded, inbred muzzie primitives desperate to get laid in nirvana (as in the case of cowardly muzzie Torontan Faisal.)

    “When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred.” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
    “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.” ~ Patrick Henry
    “After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.” ~ William S. Burroughs
    “Never trust a government that doesn’t trust its own citizens with guns.” ~ Benjamin Franklin
    “Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will end up plowing for those who don’t.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
    “The 2nd amendment was not written to overthrow the government. It was written to depose those who WOULD.” ~ Samuel Adams
    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.” ~ Adolf Hitler
    “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” ~ George Mason

    • Proudvietvet58

      Best comment of the year!

  • ChiefH

    I think the answer is when the Government (either US or Canadian) can 100% insure that the criminals do not have weapons, then the general population will not need them. does anyone ever see the government keeping 100% of the criminals gun free???? It is Canada’s loss not to have the equivalent of the US 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution.

    • Daniel F. Melton

      Canada (and its bureaucrats) don’t lose a damned thing. It’s the unarmed and unprotected victims who suffer.

    • The Deplorable Hobbit

      That really only applies to human criminals. I know a small town in very rural Canada that finally started covering their formerly open dump. All at once the dump bears were invading homes in the town and clawing off siding if they couldn’t break in otherwise.

      • ChiefH

        Ah! another reason for mere citizens to be armed.

        • The Deplorable Hobbit

          They still hunt in the Killarney, ON area and the hunters have rifles. It was necessary to shoot more than one bear. As I recall at least one was shot indoors. These bears, of course, weren’t afraid of people. They were a problem for several years. Bear hunters don’t like hunting garbage bears as they don’t taste good for some reason, ultimately several of the less obnoxious ones had to die off of old age.

  • DonRS

    This OBVIOUSLY CLUELESS Mayor and his police department have “no idea” of the motive of Faisal Hussain, the Toronto shooter that kille 2 and wounded 14 – no idea of what might be his agenda. REALLY? Naive and STUPID would be the best description.

    Canada’s very strict gun laws have not sovled the problem. Only law abiding citizens obey the laws! Without effective enforcement, laws do nothing. So, since Canada’s laws are, obviously ineffective, what will more laws do – the same NOTHING!

  • timetraveler44

    To protect me and my family from murderers and thugs like this one. They don’t care about your “laws,” and will do what they want when they want. When are you and those “disarmed” citizens going to learn? The best defense of a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

  • Daniel F. Melton

    The population is effectively disarmed to begin with, so what effect are “more stringent gun control laws” going to have on criminals and terrorists who routinely ignore laws?

  • Alan404

    People have guns perhaps for the following reason. To give idiots like the mayor something to pose dumb questions about.

  • Proudvietvet58

    Wow, what a blind, ignorant and, irresponsible question from a MAYOR yet! Especially after a probable radical muslim committed murders; a 18 & 10 year old female and, 13 “Others” wounded! This “Mayor” perhaps should have asked “Faisal Hussain” his question. I know a man who currently lives in Canada that wishes very hard to return to America to live. He must get PERMISSION from the Canadian Government to cross the invisible border before he can leave! To me, THAT is communism and tyranny! The very evil that OUR Founders saw the need for our Second Amendment to prevent and/or quell!

    I am VERY Thankful I do NOT live in Canada nor, will I ever so much as visit there.

    Personally, I will NEVER be a Victim again in THIS life!

  • Jim McCormack

    He’s why Canada is still under the Queen rather than independent like we are. It took tough guys with guns to earn our Freedom and keep it . Canada still bows to the Queen. Now ,Trudeau has surrendered Canada to Islam just like England did. Rationalizing the rapes and murders and allowing their citizens to be murdered while worshipping the God of Political Correctness to people who still wipe their a– with their hand.

  • Gary

    This broad WATTS was more concerned about a fire arm then the people hit and dead. Typical behavior. But this shooting and many others like it are proof why we do need the right to LEGALLY carry a fire concealed or openly . If that man had been properly documented and vetted I bet the Canadian government would never have let him in. So protect yourself and live and if not you may end up like the wounded or unfortunately the dead

  • Rick Alenn

    I think you Canadians need more guns a lots of ammo so you can defend yourselves from filthy islam. Tell that mayor to SUCK your heavily armed ass.

  • Bama Bill

    Canada tried to implement registration of all firearms back in the 90’s. Was supposed to cost $2 Million. About 20 years, and 20 Billion dollars later. This scheme was dropped. The RCMP said the system had not helped solve one crime! Now this MORON, wonders why anyone would want to own a gun? Because he lives in a “Parallel Universe”. All Govt. big wigs have armed protection 24/7. So why would they want to own a gun? I’d love to haul their ass out where the “Grizzlies live”, and turn them loose for a week!
    They live in the city, don’t even own a car, so they are NOT aware of living where they have to defend themselves and their families.

    Like the college grad that has never worked a day in their life, that is hired and controls how people have to live! NUTS!

  • isaiah

    But the problem is that Canada is more British and anything else. They’re basically the Brits of North America. Always have been and always will be. True they are their own country but they’re still Brits regardless and it’s Britain that has to care of them even though they are indeed a liability to the USA

  • GRAMPA

    Crime is low in Canada not because the people dont have guns. it is the people and their culture. they ,for the large part of society are educated well mannered friendly and hard working. not many I know are unemployed until you enter the large cities.then you are going into a foreign country. Crime has risin steadily as they have allowed the muslim to enter. they bring violence with them. they dont care for laws because their god says they dont need to. or that is what their mullas tell them. I was half raised in Canada on my cousins farm. their doors had no locks. even in the town you left your keys in the car. In all the years I was there I never heard about violence or laws broken other than the occasional bar fight where someone had too much to drink. why didnt we need guns because our neighbor had the same value for life than we did. not so now where government funds the murder of the unborn as if it is a right to control their body. yes they have the right but it is called self control. as peoples morals decline the need to defend ones self is clear. does anyone have the right to take your life? you do have the right to defend it. does the government tell women they can kill a fetus to defend their right to life? Then the same rule apply to all. the equal means of defence also applys.
    Grampa

  • notalib

    The liberals answer to any problem, perceived or real. Tax it or regulate it or ban it. It doesn’t matter what the problem. Control is all they seek. Liberalism is the problem.