Will California Allow Carry Permits

Two San Diego Democrats want all applicants for concealed carry permits in the state to complete at least eight hours of firearms training beforehand in addition to other requirements.

The move by Assemblymembers Lorena Gonzalez-Fletcher and Todd Gloria, AB 2103, would set a mandatory minimum for training to carry a gun in the state. The lawmakers argue the regulation is needed to ensure guns don’t wind up in the wrong hands.

“Under current law in California, a person who has never even fired a gun or received proper training on how to safely handle one can receive a permit and carry a loaded firearm in public. This jeopardizes public safety and has to be addressed,” Gloria said in a statement.

The bill would set a minimum threshold of eight hours of training including live-fire shooting exercises. Current guidelines authorize sheriffs and police chiefs in the state to require no more than 16 hours of training before issuing an initial permit and a four-hour minimum on renewals. Some jurisdictions have higher requirements than what is being proposed, but gun control advocates who support the measure say a statewide mandate for more training is needed.

“AB 2103 will ensure that all concealed carry permit holders in California know how to use their firearm – a key step in avoiding unintentional shootings in our state,” said Wendy Wheatcroft, a representative of Moms Demand Action.

Gun rights supporters counter that the bill is a political power grab that will make it even harder to get a permit in the state that already has some jurisdictions that grant few of the licenses. San Diego County, the region both of AB 2103’s sponsors represent, has only 1,200 active permits for a population of over 3 million, with county Sheriff Bill Gore’s strict may-issue policies that applicants prove a “good cause” having been repeatedly challenged in court.

“This new legislation proposed by these two anti-Second Amendment State Assemblymembers calls for safety rules for gun owners that already exist,” said Michael Schwartz, executive director of San Diego County Gun Owners. “The purpose of this grandstanding is nothing more than an attempt to influence the public to believe that gun owners are dangerous and unsafe, which is untrue.”

source: guns.com

  • Alan404

    How about prospective holders of public office being required to undergo “training” involving the varied aspects of legislation they might propose or cast votes on, before being permitted to run for public office. Turnabout, after all, is fair play. It is, isn’t it?

    • Popetal

      How about training in comprehending the law as set forth in the Constitution?

      • Steve Harper

        You want a democrat to abide by the law of the land, The US constitution? Never happen. Those people are clueless!

      • dstudie

        It has been my experience that these leftist retards are incapable of understanding anything at all.

  • Brickkicker

    I have a permit here in CA, and am required to receive 4 hours of safety instruction, and 50 rounds of firing qualification for each handgun on my permit every time I renew, (Every two years) So not sure where they are getting the “none required” BS. So an 4 additional hours will make everyone safer?
    Geez legislators, get a life and start working on the REAL problems in CA, like the budget, and getting the miilions off of welfare that are fully able to work, and making sure hardened criminals aren’t let out of jail,etc etc.

    • Patricia Stockel

      I also live in California. Went through the necessary class, fired my 50 rounds to qualify for each handgun I wanted on my permit. Took the paperwork to the Sheriff’s office so they could run a complete background check on me, then it was up to the Sheriff to approve or disapprove. They also asked why you needed a permit. In several days I received a call from the Sheriff’s Department telling me I was approved and come get your permit. I should also mention they wanted to see my two handguns for the first permit. If you keep the handguns for your next permit it was not necessary to bring them in. All in all, it was easy, and the people very polite and helpful.

  • Troy Stepp

    “Under current law in California, a person who has never even fired a gun or received proper training on how to safely handle one can receive a permit and carry a loaded firearm in public. This jeopardizes public safety and has to be addressed,” Gloria said in a statement.

    Todd Gloria is a FUCKING IDIOT!!! A known FACT for the past decade! A total libtard rubber stamp.

    • Patricia Stockel

      Troy you are one real dumb ass. Your statement is completely FALSE and misleading. Read the damn law before shooting off your mouth!

      • Ronald Hagler

        I am a bit confused. You claim that you went through the training, background check and waiting for the sheriff to decide if you were worthy of receiving a CCP, yet you jumped all over Troy for calling Todd Gloria an idiot for posting a complete lie about persons receiving permits. The way I read Troy’s post was that he quoted Todd Gloria and then called him an idiot for posting a complete lie; which contradicted your experience in obtaining your permit. What did I miss?

        • dstudie

          You didn’t miss anything. Patricia Stockel is a blithering idiot. And Troy Stepp is completely correct, Todd Gloria is a totally corrupt lying thieving anti-American libtard.