Wisconsin: Constitutional Carry Passes Committee Vote

Fairfax, VA – -(Ammoland.com)- This week, Senate Bill 169 passed the Senate Judiciary Committee with a vote of 3-2. SB 169 would allow for the concealed carry of a firearm without a concealed carry license anywhere in the state where an individual is legally allowed to be.

SB 169 will now head to the Senate floor for consideration. Please contact your senator and urge them to SUPPORT this important Right to Carry legislation.

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SB 169 would also expand the list of places where firearm owners can legally carry and make the current concealed carry licensing system optional. This allows citizens to obtain a license and take advantage of reciprocity agreements with other states.

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  • Randy Brown

    This is a stupid and dangerous bill, it will put more people in dangerous situations. Even if you have a CCL people of color this will be more of a reason that you will get shot by police. You also have to think gang members carry any way so you are giving them more of a reason to carry and shoot. The people that approved this bill only had one thing in mind, that was money from gun lobbyists not the safety of the state.

    • Don Baker

      We always hear this incorrect hysteria from gun hating liberals, despite the fact there is no facts to back their whining hysterical complaints.

      • Randy Brown

        What in my statement is wrong, I’m a gun owner, ex-cop, ex-military. The gangs have more guns than you realize and have for some time, now they will be free to carry with no problem if this pass. There also will be a increase in more people being shot by police and in other situations so don’t tell me about data, I’m talking real life. And no I’m not a liberal.

        • JC

          you need to sit down and think about you opinion but think about it honestly—the data you have could be and probably is wrong

          • Randy Brown

            I see it everyday so I’m not going on data. First look at big cities gang shootings, these guys have more guns than you think, they get them by any means possible. With this bill being passed who will know a good guy with a gun from the bad when everybody will be walking around like cowboys in a western. Guys use your heads and not what some clown on tv tell you, if everyone walks around with guns not knowing who is who all the wrong things will and can happen.

          • Terry Butts

            “First look at big cities gang shootings,”

            Like Chicago, DC, and other places with the STRICTEST gun restrictions on the books?

            How exactly does that prove that the DROPPING CRIME RATE in places with constitutional carry is somehow BAD for the people?

            “With this bill being passed who will know a good guy with a gun from the
            bad when everybody will be walking around like cowboys in a western”

            It is simple its called INTELLIGENCE and TRAINING.

            Just like they used to do back before the ANTI GUN HYSTERIA resulted in the RESTRICTIONS we have today. As it stands now several people LEGALLY carrying or even HOLDING A CRIMINAL AT GUNPOINT waiting for the police THEY CALLED AND TOLD THEY WERE HOLDING THE CRIMINAL AT GUNPOINT have been shot or killed because of this IDIOTIC mentality that anyone with a gun is the BAD GUY. This includes OFF DUTY POLICE who tried to assist fellow officers.

            Spouting about FICTIONAL WESTERNS has no bearing on reality the fact is people used to carry openly all the time it DETERRED criminals from attacking them the WESTERNS pulled a few instances and SENSATIONALIZED them for ratings and now ANTI GUN people keep pointing to this FICTION as if it PROVES their beliefs about an ARMED SOCIETY.

          • old fashion

            With your reasoning they can’t have firearms as the bill hasn’t pasted as yet. Easy to tell the bad guys, they run from law enforcement, or don’t obey a lawful order. I’ve carried for decades and have never been stopped, as a matter of fact open carry is legal in my state as well as constitutional carry. Haven’t seen any mass killings or gang members getting more weapons then they could get before. Maybe this will give criminals and or gang members a thought about robbing someone as they won’t know who is carrying. Guess they could pick on the under 21 age group. Like others stated the most crime is committed in states or cities that prevent people from protecting themselves.

          • Randy Brown

            I respect your View still my point have been missed, first I have no problem with protecting yourself and family I carry myself even to the mail box. All I’m saying is it does matter what law in any state says criminals, gang members and mental get guns. Some have better guns than cops where do they get them from, by any means possible. There have been many people shot by cops that didn’t have a gun, there have been people that gotten shot in there own homes and the gun was outside the home for some other reason. I have no problem with carry so don’t get me wrong, I simply made the point that you want know the good guy with a gun from the bad and don’t say the bad will run because some don’t.

          • Jackson Brannon

            So Basically you are saying WE should not have these rights because of some Felon Criminal Gang Bangers!! Here is what I know that is a FACT!!! When stopped by a Police Officer here our very FIRST statement is OFFICER I AM CONCEALED CARRY!!! The officer then tells me to keep my hands clear and either waits for backup or as ALWAYS when being RESPECTIVE they always tell me to exit the vehicle and then I show them my handgun and usually he removes it and gives it back to me when we are finished!!! CRIMINALS carrying a firearm NEVER tell the officer they have a firearm!!! Nice try but NO we do not lose our rights for your felon buddies!!!

          • Randy Brown

            No I’m not saying that people shouldn’t have their rights for this or that. My statement had nothing to do with your or anybody else right to carry, you just like so many others took what I said and turned it into something else. Read it again and think about what I said and the content it was in and not what you want it to mean. And by the way some have told cops they were carrying and was licensed and got shot anyway.

          • Jackson Brannon

            Just go away idiot!!! We do not believe you are in law enforcement or gun owner!! Libturd comes to mind!!

          • Randy Brown

            Not one time did I call anyone a name but you Jackson is the reason people can’t have a good conversation about anything. For your information I was a military police and a Atlanta policeman and a gun owner now for over forty years a member USCCA. So with that said the name calling save it, I tried to make a simple point that’s all.

          • Jackson Brannon

            YOU with your own admission say that you shoot anyone with a gun!!! YOU do not like the 2nd Amendment!! GO AWAY!!!

          • Randy Brown

            Jackson you’re really taking this to a stupid level now. I never said I would shoot anyone with a gun, that’s your words. So don’t try putting words in my statement, and as far as the second Amendment again your words. If I didn’t like the second Amendment I would not be carrying myself. So please don’t be stupid making BS from what I said and what you want to make it. I’m done you want to be a idiot, then be it by yourself to yourself.

          • Jackson Brannon

            I said GO AWAY STUPID!!! NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR LIES AND BS!!!

          • Randy Brown

            Kiss my Ass and you go away no now asked you for your input from the start.

          • Jackson Brannon

            HA HA HA HA!!! Is poor ittle wandy gonna cry???? Get off of your knees and go back to your welfare soup kitchen!!! Take your Libturd Arse and go back to your Ghetto and cry to your home boys!!! HA HA HA HA!!! Don’t let your nubbins get in a bind lil boy!!! Go hug it out with your wifey on her street corner!!

          • Randy Brown

            I see where this has gotten you low life piece of shit I’m whiter than your ass never live in a ghetto maybe that’s where you come for or maybe in your trailer park. Go dip your snuff and hump your hound or let your dog hump you maybe that would get the shit out your brain what’s left of it.

          • Jackson Brannon

            You can’t see nothing since your head is up your A$$!!! HA HA HA!!! Your Wife, mother, sister, aunt and cousin are all the same person!! Your family tree is a telephone pole!! Stay down there in Georgia and keep playing with the neighbors dog while molesting the local rats!! WE will take care of the Criminals and laws that you are so scared of lil boy!! BTW if you ever get off of your knees the local DNC office is looking for someone to clean your Hero Hitlary’s depends!!!Your wife would say HI but her mouth is full right now nubbins boy!!

        • jeff

          A criminal, or outlaw, doesn’t need a new law to conceal carry. They’re criminals. If they were worried about laws, they wouldn’t be criminals to begin with.

          • Randy Brown

            Jeff you just missed the whole point. I’m done so people just don’t get it you put it in plain language and they just don’t get it.

        • Don Baker

          Problem is, your fears have never been realized in open carry states. No gangs will not be able to freely carry, since it is illegal for a felon to own a gun.

          • Randy Brown

            It’s not my fear because it happens in every state. The state with the strict gun laws go through it, Texas open carry did that stop the shooting of cops not to long ago and that was a guy that had military experience. Gang members are everywhere and they don’t care who they shoot.

    • Frederic Charles Hilnbrand

      Randy I do understand what you were getting at about people of color and the police shooting them. BUT if they do things correctly if a cop stops them the FIRST thing they need to say BADGE is right here and point to it. Don’t go after it. Our world sucks and I DO know about gangs and guns. Where I live it is next to impossible to get a carry permit unless you have a business and deal with lots of cash. They put you through more hoops and run arounds and then say, NO. Look I have no record of any kind and am 68 and can not get a carry permit for as far as they are concerned my reason is not valid enough for them. I think if you are over 21 and a LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZEN and have NO criminal background of any kind you should be allowed to carry. IF you screw up then you must deal with your screw up. It has been proven that in states where carry is permited the crime rate is less than where a carry permit is needed.

    • Jackson Brannon

      Randy is full od Schitt!! GANG Members have stolen guns and are Convicted felons which does NOT allow them to carry anyway!!! What a nut job LIAR!!! We have Concealed Carry WITHOUT Permits here in West Virginia and I can GUARANTEE Randy that we are safer because of it!!! Look at the Concealed carry at the Church that just happened in N Carolins!! A 22 yr old concealed carry stopped a Terrorist!! Cleveland Ohio lat month 2 Concealed Carry Taco Bell employees wasted an armed robber and wounded his accomplice!! WHY does Randy hate this???? Maybe Tandy is a POS Criminal!!!

      • Randy Brown

        Just like I said before you like so many missed the whole point. For you and others that missed the point. My point is no one will know the good guys from the bad, more lives will be loosed because you want know. So stop reading something into what I said and the reason I said it. If everyone walking around with guns knowing that a lot of gang members especially young idiots that think that now they can that will cause a lot of problems unforeseen that’s all I’m talking about.

    • old fashion

      People of color at least 90% that I’ve read about and seen the videos of, have been shot for not obeying a lawful order and being aggressive to law enforcement. I’ve also seen whites shot by law enforcement so don’t use race. I don’t know about you but I will protect myself from anyone of any race and or color if my life is threatened. If I’m ordered to stop I will stop and if I feel I’ve been wronged I will settle the issue in court. I certainly would not be aggressive to law enforcement. I’m ordered to stop and put my hand up I’m not going to argue with anyone. I will not get aggressive and run or drive away or walk toward law enforcement officers.. Only reason to do that is if your breaking the law. Law enforcement have a hard enough time without having to get into a foot or car chase, or having someone get aggressive with them just because they don’t want to listen. Your approached by law enforcement stop put your hands up and let them know you are carrying and don’t make aggressive moves or reach for a firearm unless they tell you to or let them disarm you for their protection. If you not a felon, and your firearm isn’t stolen you have nothing to fear no matter if your white, black, red, blue, green, or yellow. Obey the law and a law enforcement order and you won’t have a problem.

      • Randy Brown

        Once again someone else missed the point, I’m not talking about protecting yourself and your family hell I feel the same. I’m bring up a point about as the NRA stated a good guy from the bad. I was bring up the point that you will not be able to know who the bad guy with a gun is when everyone is walking around with guns. I know what you are going to say the good guy not going to run or something like that, bit my point is a lot of cities have bad people in it gangs, mental or whatever there is a lot that can and will go wrong intentionally or not. When anyone can walk around with guns you can’t tell me that you can tell if that person standing across, behind or in front of you should have a gun and their mine set at any given time. If that person is a criminal, gang member or mental when people everywhere is allowed to by the state to walk around with guns, then you never know what side of the bed anybody including a cop got up on any given day. That’s all

  • Ron Simpkins

    The fact is that ordinary law abiding people have a constitutional right to possess firearms and use them to protect themselves and others. Concealed carry is appropriate and needed to protect yourself and others in a needful situation. Remember guns don’t kill anything without people activating them. Where there is a life threat the very first thing you reach for is your gun. If you are not a supporter of the second amendment and do not have or carry a gun and your life becomes threatened you will experience an immediate change in your thinking, if you survive you will go and buy a gun. Armed American Citizens take our more criminals than the police because they are present when needed. A firearm has no bias, and does not know the color or religion of the owner.

  • Randy Brown

    I thank you for your understanding and your point, but a lot of places are different from where you are. Just about every state if not all have gangs even on Indian reservation and not all care about other people and not because you wear a badge this I know from experience in and out of the military. But like is said it would very difficult to know the good guys from the bad when you put a gun and stupidity together that all I’m saying.

  • myfordtruck

    everybody should have the right to carry but should hat some training on when where and how to use deadly force and when they are allowed to use it and that they need to know the risks of wounding or killing a bystander I have been carrying for over 25 years and thank God I have never pulled my weapon and hope I never do but I shoot to know I am going to hit and when I am around people I try and think how something would go down and where other people would be so I would not hurt them every body carrying out there be careful and safe

  • kayla

    So Basically you are saying WE should not have these rights because of some Felon Criminal Gang Bangers!! Here is what I know that is a FACT!!! When stopped by a Police Officer here our very FIRST statement is OFFICER I AM CONCEALED CARRY!!! The officer then tells me to keep my hands clear and either waits for backup or as ALWAYS when being RESPECTIVE they always tell me to exit the vehicle and then I show them my handgun and usually he removes it and gives it back to me when we are finished!!! CRIMINALS carrying a firearm NEVER tell the officer they have a firearm!!! Nice try but NO we do not lose our rights for your felon buddies!!!

  • Tom

    I respect your View still my point have been missed, first I have no problem with protecting yourself and family I carry myself even to the mail box. All I’m saying is it does matter what law in any state says criminals, gang members and mental get guns. Some have better guns than cops where do they get them from, by any means possible. There have been many people shot by cops that didn’t have a gun, there have been people that gotten shot in there own homes and the gun was outside the home for some other reason. I have no problem with carry so don’t get me wrong, I simply made the point that you want know the good guy with a gun from the bad and don’t say the bad will run because some don’t.

  • paul rey

    I thank you for your understanding and your point, but a lot of places are different from where you are. Just about every state if not all have gangs even on Indian reservation and not all care about other people and not because you wear a badge this I know from experience in and out of the military. But like is said it would very difficult to know the good guys from the bad when you put a gun and stupidity together that all I’m saying.

  • robert moore

    why was it folks stopped carrying in the first place?

  • robert moore

    The folks didn’t feel the need for protection?

  • robert moore

    Now the times have changed here and in a LOT of places!

  • robert moore

    So if a person, who is not prohibited, and old enough, should be able to carry.